Because your (south indian) music knowledge is much much greater than all of 
ours put
together I have great faith in your taste and would like to know who
this Raghuman you are referring to?

Your insults to R-a-h-m-a-n looks more like something that's coming out of 
frustration due to the lack of Illaiyaraja in H/Bollywood. Btw, Rahman does not 
need to be faithful to anyone or any fanbase. He only needs to be faithful to 
MUSIC and he's doing a damn good job of that. If you think he's not delivering 
in the tamil industry as he did in the 90s then you were never a Rahman fan. 
You were only a fan of the new sensation that his music brought you in the 90s. 
So just grow up!

On Thu, 6/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:[arr] ARRs focus on solo instruments-overdoing on INDIAN MUSIC?
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 6:48 AM










    
            

Friends i feel sorry to say this. CHord please stop as you said you know lot 
about INDIAN MUSIC. be realistic & true to yourself. are you for 
raghuman or for yourself just to do more posts & over do. by limited 
writing you wont lose importance. It looks pity. by over & over 
highlighting on same things you want to see posts-like from ricky pc speak for 
other mds & finally tapey falling into ilayaraja groove. Chord you are 
the one coming with music by other mds & as part of music lovers 
universally no one will deny if you wanna speak on other mds.



My mom 

who is singing for Bharata Natyam performances asking this guy Chord to 

elaborate on beautiful Padams & Javalis please, as he claimed, know 

lot about Indian Music ?  She is laughing at this guy of suddenly putting 
raghuman in high spirits as no other person in indian music & another 
day he bbrings in many recommendations for some old & new music of 
other mds he finds special in it only to insist not in raghumans. To keep on 
insisting, this is it, this is 

not, with their [know lot about INDIAN MUSIC attitude]  shows 

only immaturity with lack of exposure on INDIAN MUSIC BLENDED WITH CULTURES. if 
you want to claim anything kindly add [to my limited knowledge on hindi music 
& genres].

 

human minds are in sick arrangement when 

it finds something new & irresistible it is ready to throw other 

things  without realizing its existed value be it music or be crazy 
writing to forums to gain importance only to be seen obsessed.

if i listen to certain composers, in certain languages 
& certain genres, i cannot put views in public with a bold claim [i know

lot about INDIAN MUSIC & this is it], to my limited exposure. both

old & new worlds music has provided us gems with 
various  musicians

in many genres.

 

dear friend for dance performances she used to give a mix of some nice 
hindi bhajans, marati 

abhangs, telugu kirtans, kannada dasar padams, viruttams in sanskrit shlokas 

with tamil padams & thillanas. it just not applies to her but to any 
vocal support singer for dance performances. My mom is a fan of sdburman, 
rdburmani, mohd rafi, mukesh,  lata mangeshkar, Kishori Amonkar, begum 
parveen sultana, pt.Jasraj, Bhimsen 

Joshi, jagjit singh, anup jalota, ghulam ali, G.N.Balasubramaniam , 
M.L.Vasantha Kumari, K.V.Mahadevan, M.S.V., Maragathamani, TMS, suseela, 
p.leela, spb, janaki, p.b.s., jesudas & 

ofcourse AR & Ilayaraja & many more of singers & 
composers & musicians that consume my time. 



She will find 

the ragas & taal in Michael Jacksons music & rhythms. She is a 
fan of 

beetles. She wont miss the news related to grammy awards. She will list out the 

ragas & their bhava family they belong from the mind blowing 
orchestrations 

& bgms in hollywood movies. Two americans are students to my 
mom learning how to vocal support for this classical form of art. Chord you 
dont have any other work & idling here only to create record on posts 
with ill intentions & not on facts.



 



Coming to limitations on another claim, tastes are changing to trends & 
generations. before raghuman era people were definitely enjoying raja's 
brilliance. Non-tamil fans who dont know about good & the best songs of 
other tamil mds cannot understand these facts sadly & for their limited 
exposure on richer side of tamil music on traditional, classical & by 
films. Raja may 

not be interested to learn urdu & hindi to jump into bollywood to try 
there. Raja just for a decade now stands 2nd to raghuman in creativity. I would 
ask why heros from various states dont try their luck in bollywood. Why 

even Kamal & Rajini could not find a constant place in bollywood with 
their 

talents. It is difficult business-wise& nbsp;considering the style of 
living, 

language  & what the society demand in films in that culture 
at that time. 



May be ilayaraja is satisfied with what he does at the period when

raghuman is very junior & not in action. Raja is contented with the

money & entertaining tamil fans as far as possible. I believe even

if raja gets more hindi films he wont deviate or cheat tamil fans from

giving best music also to tamil films at later stages in a way of

thanking the soil & his first fans which is not in the case of

raghuman. Like this guy Chord is sick of putting posts thinking himself

as the best critic who learnt all forms of Indian Music, Raghuman is

sick after money forgetting his good old tamil fans who want to listen

to some best tunes even for that few tamil films he is working in.

when fans claim Raja could not do what raghuman did in bollywood they forgot, 
what fans & critics in north claim as the famous A to Z of bollywood 
composers, why such bollywood composers could not step into Hollywood ? Or why 
the 60s, 70s & 80s of bollywood tunes could not impress any westerners 
to use them in Hollywood movies ? Or is it possible for them to give some soul 

stirring music in south indian films. Let them find a place 2nd to 
raghuman. But who is 

interested from there to do music down south even they are offered with the 
best deal ? Most of 

them won't be interested by their basic life-style, preference & also 
due to limited 

knowledge on culture & language. Those so-called ace bollywood 
composers were in a situation of could not even dream to take their tunes to 
Hollywood movies or to win internationally. Himesh is a rare case slipped into 
dasavataram which is not soul stirring. Ilayaraja will do more justice 

to dasavataram.

Let us see how raghuman is going to be successful in hollywood movies as

main composer? It is not that easy to satisfy that audience. He is

going to reach 20th year & he finds hard with this creativity to stamp

in hollywood. He cannot easily get into that sort of music. Just for

his bits n pieces used there he has not reached the peak in hwd. Fans

claim Raja could not do what raghuman did. but fans forgot the famous old 
& new bollywood composers also could not do what raghuman doing 
now. 1 out of

100 will stand out. 



There is a constant change. This is raghuman era of

music regard to films. After raghumans retirement someone will be

popular ! Friends just because your music knowledge is limited upto that you 
tend to omit the certain facts & become partial. Try to be balanced, be 
truthful before coming to post about musicians & music. There are 
people for every good music & every talented musician means there are 
many good music & many talented musicians as far as INDIA is concerned. 



It is Limited to Film music about Raghuman, the only one in whole india to make 
west have keen interest not just to listen, to use & perform his tunes 
only for a decade now. If you take great musicians from Carnatic & 
hindustani genres they are winning their part for many decades performing 
& spreading its popularity in the West without announcements & 
from where many westerners are interested on our culture & learning 
these genres. Most people who are listening only film music are not aware of 
these things as other genres are out of glamour world. As a music lover in 
broader sense, i am for raghuman when bollywood music fans & critics 
want to pull him down, i am for ilayaraja when it is kollywood for raghuman 
failed to maintain standards here & i will speak for the best ever 
valued traditional genres (carnatic & hindustani) when film music 
lovers ignore them without knowing its values. i
 give due respect to all INDIAN FILM

 Composers & all INDIAN MUSICIANS who perform for different genres. VIC.



--- "Chord" <purevibz@ .. .> wrote:



Don't make such assumptions.  I know a lot about Indian music.  None of these 
composers have the range and versatility of ARR and have used these instruments 
in the specific way ARR has.  Of course, many have used solo instruments, but 
ARR's specialty relies not just in the fact that he uses them, but how he uses 
them.  



 

--- "Ricky" <rickypc@ > wrote:

  

Buddy...my guess is you haven't listened to any other Indian music then :) 

Haven't you heard Shankar Jaikishan using Accordian in Awara, S.D.Burman using 
Kalyanji's 'been' in Nagin, R.D.Burman using harmonica in Aradhana, Jatin Lalit 
using piano in Pehla Nasha, Vishal using guitar in Satya, Anu Malik using 
violin in Baazigar, Shiv Hari using Santoor and flute in Chandni, ....gosh the 
list can really go on and on!!!




      

    
    
        
         
        
        








        


        
        


      

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