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--- In [email protected], V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/19/2008 6:06 PM India Time, _rayrai2k_ wrote: > > > Take Lagaan.. wasn't the picurization the best? AG had given > > importance to every note of ARR. The use of Lezims in Ghanan.. the > > multiple voice for multiple actors. Radha kaise na Jale so far the > > best... O re Chori you might have to look for once again. > > I had always felt ARR when he works with AG that if ARR gives a > > virtual visualization AG give the sound felt through visuals. They > > collaborate very well with each other.. Think of Khwajaji. Azeemo > > Shaanshansha was indeed well pictuarized. The righ instuments were > > brought to the foreground when the sound appeared. Though > > Jashnebahara & Manmohana came in parts it was picuarized with a > > proper background. So no critic ever said the songs slowed down the > > movie as they did for GURU. Dont you remember how many critics ARR's > > music was a speed breaker? pal pal hain bhaari was given proper > > justice. I liked the way Saawariyan was done it was more touching. > > Try to remember the sequence for Yeh jo des the scene just before > > that He was in other words did justice for songs. > > yaar, what exactly would be a good picturization? > > I think where something difference is there, where some creativity, some > imagination is there, that would be a good picturization. > > Lagaan: > > ghanan ghanan > - a group of villagers singing, as is 100s of songs > > mitwa > - it was good :-) > > radha kaise na jale > - hero/ heroine singing and dancing, as is 1000s of songs > > o rey chhori > - hero/ heroine singing, as is 1000s of songs. But that switch to the > English part of british lady was good. > > chale chalo > - a group of guys singing, as is 1000s of songs > > Waltz For A Romance > - a dance sequence. It was superb. created the exact atmosphere of those > times. > > o paalanhare > - a prayer, like in 100s of songs. > > So, how many came out as good, though it is my personal opinion. > > See, songs were good, beautiful, great. They were so great that only if > just buffalos were shown on the screen, it would have sounded good. > Radha Kaise Na jale was beautifully conceived - as a song. Chale Chalo's > feel was greatly motivating - as a song, Palanhare was so lovely, soft, > touching - as a song. > > But if you press the mute button on your TV/ PC while these sequences > are running on screen and you don't get to listen the song part and see > only visual, what great do you find in that visual to call it great > picturization. > > As I said, Mitwa would still appear good even in mute, Waltz sequence > would still appear good even in mute, O rey Chhori's switching to and > back from British lady part would still appear good. > > But if you play some Anu Malik or Kalyanji AnandJi or Laxmikant Pyarelal > on your song player while these videos are playing on mute, would you > still like the visual, giving concessions for the mismatch? > > no way. There was hardly any creativity, no imagination in these songs' > picturization. the visuals would not keep you engaged on their own > strengths. It was just the magic brought by the songs that made you like > even those ordinary, already-used-in-1000s of films visuals. > -- > > If you still don't get what I am saying. Compare guru. > > See all the songs in mute. And you are still captivated just seeing what > is happening in the visuals. Right? > > There were no great sets in Guru as Shankar would have used, no extra > effort was made in Guru to create an attention grabbing background - > like Mani himself used in Dil Se Rey - all that fire and winds and > leaves and jungle. > > Still, Guru's visuals, even in day to day situation, have a life of > their own. Such visuals are good picturization and add to the beauty of > songs if song is good, and song adds beauty to the visual and the total > synergy is breathtaking. > > Raat Bhar Diya Jale, see it on mute and you are still captivated. > > So, I hope I have clarified that AG didn't use good visual in his > earlier films also, let alone in JA. It was AG who was stealing the > beauty of the music to add a life to his mediocre visuals. > > -- > V >
