On 7/19/2008 6:06 PM India Time, _rayrai2k_ wrote: > Take Lagaan.. wasn't the picurization the best? AG had given > importance to every note of ARR. The use of Lezims in Ghanan.. the > multiple voice for multiple actors. Radha kaise na Jale so far the > best... O re Chori you might have to look for once again. > I had always felt ARR when he works with AG that if ARR gives a > virtual visualization AG give the sound felt through visuals. They > collaborate very well with each other.. Think of Khwajaji. Azeemo > Shaanshansha was indeed well pictuarized. The righ instuments were > brought to the foreground when the sound appeared. Though > Jashnebahara & Manmohana came in parts it was picuarized with a > proper background. So no critic ever said the songs slowed down the > movie as they did for GURU. Dont you remember how many critics ARR's > music was a speed breaker? pal pal hain bhaari was given proper > justice. I liked the way Saawariyan was done it was more touching. > Try to remember the sequence for Yeh jo des the scene just before > that He was in other words did justice for songs.
yaar, what exactly would be a good picturization? I think where something difference is there, where some creativity, some imagination is there, that would be a good picturization. Lagaan: ghanan ghanan - a group of villagers singing, as is 100s of songs mitwa - it was good :-) radha kaise na jale - hero/ heroine singing and dancing, as is 1000s of songs o rey chhori - hero/ heroine singing, as is 1000s of songs. But that switch to the English part of british lady was good. chale chalo - a group of guys singing, as is 1000s of songs Waltz For A Romance - a dance sequence. It was superb. created the exact atmosphere of those times. o paalanhare - a prayer, like in 100s of songs. So, how many came out as good, though it is my personal opinion. See, songs were good, beautiful, great. They were so great that only if just buffalos were shown on the screen, it would have sounded good. Radha Kaise Na jale was beautifully conceived - as a song. Chale Chalo's feel was greatly motivating - as a song, Palanhare was so lovely, soft, touching - as a song. But if you press the mute button on your TV/ PC while these sequences are running on screen and you don't get to listen the song part and see only visual, what great do you find in that visual to call it great picturization. As I said, Mitwa would still appear good even in mute, Waltz sequence would still appear good even in mute, O rey Chhori's switching to and back from British lady part would still appear good. But if you play some Anu Malik or Kalyanji AnandJi or Laxmikant Pyarelal on your song player while these videos are playing on mute, would you still like the visual, giving concessions for the mismatch? no way. There was hardly any creativity, no imagination in these songs' picturization. the visuals would not keep you engaged on their own strengths. It was just the magic brought by the songs that made you like even those ordinary, already-used-in-1000s of films visuals. -- If you still don't get what I am saying. Compare guru. See all the songs in mute. And you are still captivated just seeing what is happening in the visuals. Right? There were no great sets in Guru as Shankar would have used, no extra effort was made in Guru to create an attention grabbing background - like Mani himself used in Dil Se Rey - all that fire and winds and leaves and jungle. Still, Guru's visuals, even in day to day situation, have a life of their own. Such visuals are good picturization and add to the beauty of songs if song is good, and song adds beauty to the visual and the total synergy is breathtaking. Raat Bhar Diya Jale, see it on mute and you are still captivated. So, I hope I have clarified that AG didn't use good visual in his earlier films also, let alone in JA. It was AG who was stealing the beauty of the music to add a life to his mediocre visuals. -- V
