On 7/22/2008 10:35 PM India Time, _badrie_ wrote:

> Rawat am with you on this, but not just this, of late in atleast 1 or
> 2 songs in each album where i think it sounds like a half-hearted
> composition. 

No, no, not exacty half-heardted. The song is indeed good. Only that ARR 
seems to have consciously left out his stamp from this song. And "ARR 
signature is missing" will be noticed by fans like you.

Actually, I eventually saw JTJYN today.

Irrespective of all halla gulla about Pappu, as an ARR fan, I couldn't
prevent myself from noticing that this song is not ARR-stamped. It was
an ordinary type of song dozens of which are doing round composed by
several MDs. No copy, all different. And several good in their own 
accord, but still, the bottom line is that they are not at ARR's level.

And Pappu is not at ARR's level. The screen didn't come alive when this 
song started like the screen had come alive when muqqala used to start. 
The cinema hall didn't become a discotheque like it did as Hello Doctor 
progressed.

Still, people liked it and tapped their feet with it and hummed it. That 
is great satisfaction.

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I thought it over and found that the issue has not at all been discussed 
in this group. So I decided to create this thread to make the point 
reach home that

- "ARR's signature are missing" has been noticed.

- Lack of signatures got new fans for ARR. You might not realize but
there are people who just don't listen to ARR's song for some reason.
They couldn't identify that this song is ARR's, so listened to it and
started liking it, and when they came to know that it is ARR's, it was
too late to back out.

ARR can now continue leaving out his signatures from some songs.  :-) 
as an effective marketing strategy.

> Like you I adore arr for his very diff style in presenting a simple
> song. But I hate to disappoint, except for the brief intro bit where
> he sets the temp for Pappu cant dance, the rest is a regular ordinary
> song. probably Aamir wanted an ordinary song to exemplify the lyrics.
> Papu is a hit more coz of the lyrics and its indirect take on Salman
> Khan. 

Oh God. It is first time I came to know thru you that this song could be 
a dig on Salman. Hmm. I should have guessed that. Nice catch.

> 
> I havent hear the Hawa song, atleast I doesnt have a recall value.

Why? don't you have Ada? or this song? not available in your area? If 
you want that, I would send you that. Drop me a direct mail. It is a gem 
nonetheless. a pleasure to listen to.

> Probably there are still lots of members in this group yearning for
> the vintage ARR. But they wont speak out as they fear being bashed by
> the rest. 

yeah, that casualty is always there in fans groups, but I know that 
there are people here also that would still speak the truth without 
worrying about backlash from fanatics.

> 
> Am glad am not alone in missing the magic from ARR. Lately its either
> the lyricists who are letting him down or at times its himself. ARR
> needs to be inspired to come up with something out of the ordinary..
> That is not being done by the new breed of directors, so every now and
> then we have to wait for Ashutosh, Aamir, Mani or Shankar to get the
> best. Am sure Ghajini will be good as AAmir will save the best for
> himself.

:-) You forgot the Mangal Pandey mess?

Keep your fingers crossed. All these Aamir and all others are 
self-absorbed Narcissus and they wouldn't care for ARR or anybody when 
it really matters. Even Mani dropped Thayya Thayya. Even Aamir chopped 
songs and deleted songs in JTJYN itself. It all depends on what suits 
themselves at a particular time.

btw, did anybody notice that new launches of starsons and stardaughters 
have mostly gone to Anu Malik. But still, Aamir took ARR for this launch 
of Imran and ARR lived up to that also. That is a good step. I foresee 
more new launches having ARR's music nowonwards.

> 
> we will wait.. 

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V

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