Great points, Prasad, very well articulated and thoughtful. I completely agree with you. For those who are complaining of the boomy sound in Blue, would turning the bass control on your player down a notch help and maybe tweaking the treble and mid range? I myself don't find the need to re-adjust EQ settings for each song.
I find Blue's sound to be very crisp and bright, despite being recorded louder, but not too loud IMO. Personal taste and music medium may have a great impact on perception, as pointed out by Prasad. --- In [email protected], Prasad Varma <svspva...@...> wrote: > > I am glad we are having a civilized discussion here on the group despite > having major differences of opinion on the sound quality. > > Wired Beats - Before I address your opinion let me chime in that I really > enjoy your remixes and have downloaded all of them and made them an integral > part of my ARR collection. I like the way you treat the tracks with respect > and care and embellish them without disturbing the essence or the soul of the > tracks. > > While loudness war has been debated previously too on this forum, I am > thinking we are barking at the wrong tree . What some of the folks like Gomzy > and Arun Kumar have been complaining is that the tracks sound mangled or > cluttered and that's the precise issue I am having trouble getting my arms > around. To me it's the opposite. Despite having several tracks of > instruments/sounds I am able to listen to all them very clearly. Using a > Video term, I'd rate the resolution of the soundtrack very high (HD 1080p :-) > :-)) . And comparison with Dil Se may not be appropriate given the acoustic > nature of that album with far fewer layers as opposed to very technoish/multi > dimensional sound of Blue. > > But I do respect the diametrically opposite viewpoint and in trying to > reconcile the opinions I can think of a couple of reasons: > > 1) Unless all of us are using Studio Monitors, we are not on a level playing > field here. I am not talking about expensive vs cheap equipment but rather > the distinct sonic reproductive traits of amplifiers/speakers. > > The same CD sounds differently to me when I listen to it on my Definitve > Technology Bipolar speakers (boomy, rich in bass) as opposed to my JBL's > which are a lot brighter and I am not even throwing the receivers into the > mix here. I have done all my Blue listening on my ipod and car stereo and I > find the sound extremely crisp and vibrant without sounding shrill. > > I am assuming that your equipment for some reason is not a perfect sonic > match to the sound created for Blue. > > 2) It also might simply boil down to something as simple as personal taste. I > am probably liking what I am hearing and you guys are not (from a pure sound > pesrpective) > > It would be helpful if someone can pinpoint the exact selections from the > album that sound jammed/muddled to you to help me better understand where you > are coming from and no Chiggy Wiggy doesn't count given the intrinsic rhytm > heavy nature of the track :-) :-) > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: ichord <purev...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:09:49 PM > Subject: [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness War! > > > The density of arrangements of sound and instruments is high and the sonic > texture is bright and loud, but I don't find the overall sound cluttered and > jammed....I can clearly distinguish each track separately and distinctly. > Rahman added a lot of layers to the songs, and due to the combination of > density, loudness, and brightness, some here are finding that to be too > overwhelming I guess. > > In any case, I hope that does not diminish people's enjoyment of the songs > themselves, which are awesome to me. > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> wrote: > > > > :) I am sure you are not halucinating. Even metallica's Death Magnetic > > sounds good. but its been rated very bad for sound quality. Mettalica fans > > have even gone to the extent of pushing for a full remasting. I am NOT > > saying Blue is like that. I agree with few who say Blue could have been > > better. The music is great but should have breathed more. > > > > Its not 'THAT BAD' Its good. > > > > check this http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=3Gmex_4hreQ > > > > regards > > > > wb > > > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea ts.com > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: ichord <purevibz@ .> > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2009 1:47:50 AM > > Subject: [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness War! > > > > > > Wow, I am really, really surprised at how mnay people here think that the > > audio quality of Blue is compressed and jammed.....wow. .....I don't hear > > it at all...unless I'm hallucinating sounds that are not there!!! > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > For those of who don;t know this There is a problem in the music > > > reproduction industry where companies either compel the mastering folks > > > or do it in-house . They take the dynamic compression to its heights. > > > This jumbles layers and clogs the space with too much in too little. The > > > crispness goes away and but volume is high and the thump is well..super. > > > Very club ready. Thats why i think Pritam's music is so bass heavy and > > > freakishly loud. > > > > > > This is called Loudness war and music composers are not to be blammed. > > > This explains why we see a remarkable difference in tracks from > > > Sony/Universals and T-series/Big Music etc. I bought a ( may be the 10th > > > copy) of Dil Se along with Blue. Dil Se for the same volume sounds > > > stunningly clear.. Blue sounds jammed ( sorry folks ). The songs are > > > great no doubt but all this discussion might just have a valid point. > > > > > > I really think T-series should treat Rahman's master tracks differently, > > > not just in final packaging but also reproduction. They should not treat > > > it like any other bollywood music. Rahman's are by far quite complex! > > > > > > Check out more on what i am sayin > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Loudness_ war > > > > > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea ts.com > > > > > > > > > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! > > > http://in.yahoo. com/trynew > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. yahoo.com/ download. php > > >
