I agree with the loudness, but for me, it's not a bother. Glad you're enjoying the sound too.
--- In [email protected], Madhavan Rajan <rsamadhu2...@...> wrote: > > Has anybody in this forum listened to the CD in a Genelec or an equivalent > studio monitor?? I think if equipment is the reason, they could help us > better. Doesn't mean that one need to have an expensive monitor to enjoy the > songs, but guess would help solve this problem in context. > While listening to the songs in my iMac (MP3's ripped from CD), both from > the internal speakers, and from the bose headphones, i don't see a sound > problem. But, I have to say that it's too loud i always had to be cautious > in lowering the volume bar. I will still wait for the CD to arrive. > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Prasad Varma <svspva...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I am glad we are having a civilized discussion here on the group despite > > having major differences of opinion on the sound quality. > > > > Wired Beats - Before I address your opinion let me chime in that I really > > enjoy your remixes and have downloaded all of them and made them an integral > > part of my ARR collection. I like the way you treat the tracks with respect > > and care and embellish them without disturbing the essence or the soul of > > the tracks. > > > > While loudness war has been debated previously too on this forum, I am > > thinking we are barking at the wrong tree . What some of the folks like > > Gomzy and Arun Kumar have been complaining is that the tracks sound mangled > > or cluttered and that's the precise issue I am having trouble getting my > > arms around. To me it's the opposite. Despite having several tracks of > > instruments/sounds I am able to listen to all them very clearly. Using a > > Video term, I'd rate the resolution of the soundtrack very high (HD 1080p > > :-) :-)) . And comparison with Dil Se may not be appropriate given the > > acoustic nature of that album with far fewer layers as opposed to very > > technoish/multi dimensional sound of Blue. > > > > But I do respect the diametrically opposite viewpoint and in trying to > > reconcile the opinions I can think of a couple of reasons: > > > > 1) Unless all of us are using Studio Monitors, we are not on a level > > playing field here. I am not talking about expensive vs cheap equipment but > > rather the distinct sonic reproductive traits of amplifiers/speakers. > > > > The same CD sounds differently to me when I listen to it on my Definitve > > Technology Bipolar speakers (boomy, rich in bass) as opposed to my JBL's > > which are a lot brighter and I am not even throwing the receivers into the > > mix here. I have done all my Blue listening on my ipod and car stereo and I > > find the sound extremely crisp and vibrant without sounding shrill. > > > > I am assuming that your equipment for some reason is not a perfect sonic > > match to the sound created for Blue. > > > > 2) It also might simply boil down to something as simple as personal taste. > > I am probably liking what I am hearing and you guys are not (from a pure > > sound pesrpective) > > > > It would be helpful if someone can pinpoint the exact selections from the > > album that sound jammed/muddled to you to help me better understand where > > you are coming from and no Chiggy Wiggy doesn't count given the intrinsic > > rhytm heavy nature of the track :-) :-) > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* ichord <purev...@...> > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:09:49 PM > > *Subject:* [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness > > War! > > > > > > > > The density of arrangements of sound and instruments is high and the sonic > > texture is bright and loud, but I don't find the overall sound cluttered and > > jammed....I can clearly distinguish each track separately and distinctly. > > Rahman added a lot of layers to the songs, and due to the combination of > > density, loudness, and brightness, some here are finding that to be too > > overwhelming I guess. > > > > > > In any case, I hope that does not diminish people's enjoyment of the songs > > themselves, which are awesome to me. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, > > wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > :) I am sure you are not halucinating. Even metallica's Death Magnetic > > sounds good. but its been rated very bad for sound quality. Mettalica fans > > have even gone to the extent of pushing for a full remasting. I am NOT > > saying Blue is like that. I agree with few who say Blue could have been > > better. The music is great but should have breathed more. > > > > > > Its not 'THAT BAD' Its good. > > > > > > check this http://www.youtube. com/watch? > > > v=3Gmex_4hreQ<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ> > > > > > > regards > > > > > > wb > > > > > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea > > > ts.com<http://www.wiredbeats.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: ichord <purevibz@ .> > > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2009 1:47:50 AM > > > Subject: [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness > > War! > > > > > > > > > Wow, I am really, really surprised at how mnay people here think that the > > audio quality of Blue is compressed and jammed.....wow. .....I don't hear it > > at all...unless I'm hallucinating sounds that are not there!!! > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > For those of who don;t know this There is a problem in the music > > reproduction industry where companies either compel the mastering folks or > > do it in-house . They take the dynamic compression to its heights. This > > jumbles layers and clogs the space with too much in too little. The > > crispness goes away and but volume is high and the thump is well..super. > > Very club ready. Thats why i think Pritam's music is so bass heavy and > > freakishly loud. > > > > > > > > This is called Loudness war and music composers are not to be blammed. > > This explains why we see a remarkable difference in tracks from > > Sony/Universals and T-series/Big Music etc. I bought a ( may be the 10th > > copy) of Dil Se along with Blue. Dil Se for the same volume sounds > > stunningly clear.. Blue sounds jammed ( sorry folks ). The songs are great > > no doubt but all this discussion might just have a valid point. > > > > > > > > I really think T-series should treat Rahman's master tracks > > differently, not just in final packaging but also reproduction. They should > > not treat it like any other bollywood music. Rahman's are by far quite > > complex! > > > > > > > > Check out more on what i am sayin > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Loudness_ war > > > > > > > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea ts.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! > > http://in.yahoo. com/trynew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. yahoo.com/ download. > > php<http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > Madhavan.R > Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! >
