Has anyone observed in Aaj Dil Gustaka hai, some kind of a electronic brushing starts at exactly 00.20 and kinda for sometime? I hope thats a part of the song? I think i am getting too worked up with the sound.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Gomzy™ <[email protected]> wrote: > I will keep it simple. I have a standard audio setting for most/all of my > arr songs. Ofcourse a tweak here and there is required but nevertheless this > setting works for all my songs. > But for blue i have to change them drastically. And no this is not the > volume that i am talking about. But all the frequencies. > > Again this is not that bad as it sounds. I am too picky about my listening > and like tweaking too much. Prasad, like you said, must be a personal > choice. > > This is on my Creative Platinum(digital IO/Analog)-Onkyo-Senhieser-creative > EP635-VLC/Jetaudio. > > I am listening to the MP3s now with CBR. Will try VBR and see if that > helps. ( the CD doesnt help much) > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:07 AM, ichord <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Great points, Prasad, very well articulated and thoughtful. I completely >> agree with you. For those who are complaining of the boomy sound in Blue, >> would turning the bass control on your player down a notch help and maybe >> tweaking the treble and mid range? I myself don't find the need to re-adjust >> EQ settings for each song. >> >> I find Blue's sound to be very crisp and bright, despite being recorded >> louder, but not too loud IMO. Personal taste and music medium may have a >> great impact on perception, as pointed out by Prasad. >> >> >> --- In [email protected] <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, >> Prasad Varma <svspva...@...> wrote: >> > >> > I am glad we are having a civilized discussion here on the group despite >> having major differences of opinion on the sound quality. >> > >> > Wired Beats - Before I address your opinion let me chime in that I >> really enjoy your remixes and have downloaded all of them and made them an >> integral part of my ARR collection. I like the way you treat the tracks with >> respect and care and embellish them without disturbing the essence or the >> soul of the tracks. >> > >> > While loudness war has been debated previously too on this forum, I am >> thinking we are barking at the wrong tree . What some of the folks like >> Gomzy and Arun Kumar have been complaining is that the tracks sound mangled >> or cluttered and that's the precise issue I am having trouble getting my >> arms around. To me it's the opposite. Despite having several tracks of >> instruments/sounds I am able to listen to all them very clearly. Using a >> Video term, I'd rate the resolution of the soundtrack very high (HD 1080p >> :-) :-)) . And comparison with Dil Se may not be appropriate given the >> acoustic nature of that album with far fewer layers as opposed to very >> technoish/multi dimensional sound of Blue. >> > >> > But I do respect the diametrically opposite viewpoint and in trying to >> reconcile the opinions I can think of a couple of reasons: >> > >> > 1) Unless all of us are using Studio Monitors, we are not on a level >> playing field here. I am not talking about expensive vs cheap equipment but >> rather the distinct sonic reproductive traits of amplifiers/speakers. >> > >> > The same CD sounds differently to me when I listen to it on my Definitve >> Technology Bipolar speakers (boomy, rich in bass) as opposed to my JBL's >> which are a lot brighter and I am not even throwing the receivers into the >> mix here. I have done all my Blue listening on my ipod and car stereo and I >> find the sound extremely crisp and vibrant without sounding shrill. >> > >> > I am assuming that your equipment for some reason is not a perfect sonic >> match to the sound created for Blue. >> > >> > 2) It also might simply boil down to something as simple as personal >> taste. I am probably liking what I am hearing and you guys are not (from a >> pure sound pesrpective) >> > >> > It would be helpful if someone can pinpoint the exact selections from >> the album that sound jammed/muddled to you to help me better understand >> where you are coming from and no Chiggy Wiggy doesn't count given the >> intrinsic rhytm heavy nature of the track :-) :-) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: ichord <purev...@...> >> >> > To: [email protected] <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:09:49 PM >> > Subject: [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness >> War! >> > >> > >> > The density of arrangements of sound and instruments is high and the >> sonic texture is bright and loud, but I don't find the overall sound >> cluttered and jammed....I can clearly distinguish each track separately and >> distinctly. Rahman added a lot of layers to the songs, and due to the >> combination of density, loudness, and brightness, some here are finding that >> to be too overwhelming I guess. >> > >> > In any case, I hope that does not diminish people's enjoyment of the >> songs themselves, which are awesome to me. >> > >> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > :) I am sure you are not halucinating. Even metallica's Death Magnetic >> sounds good. but its been rated very bad for sound quality. Mettalica fans >> have even gone to the extent of pushing for a full remasting. I am NOT >> saying Blue is like that. I agree with few who say Blue could have been >> better. The music is great but should have breathed more. >> > > >> > > Its not 'THAT BAD' Its good. >> > > >> > > check this http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=3Gmex_4hreQ >> > > >> > > regards >> > > >> > > wb >> > > >> > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea ts.com >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __ >> > > From: ichord <purevibz@ .> >> > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com >> > > Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2009 1:47:50 AM >> > > Subject: [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness >> War! >> > > >> > > >> > > Wow, I am really, really surprised at how mnay people here think that >> the audio quality of Blue is compressed and jammed.....wow. .....I don't >> hear it at all...unless I'm hallucinating sounds that are not there!!! >> > > >> > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Folks, >> > > > >> > > > For those of who don;t know this There is a problem in the music >> reproduction industry where companies either compel the mastering folks or >> do it in-house . They take the dynamic compression to its heights. This >> jumbles layers and clogs the space with too much in too little. The >> crispness goes away and but volume is high and the thump is well..super. >> Very club ready. Thats why i think Pritam's music is so bass heavy and >> freakishly loud. >> > > > >> > > > This is called Loudness war and music composers are not to be >> blammed. This explains why we see a remarkable difference in tracks from >> Sony/Universals and T-series/Big Music etc. I bought a ( may be the 10th >> copy) of Dil Se along with Blue. Dil Se for the same volume sounds >> stunningly clear.. Blue sounds jammed ( sorry folks ). The songs are great >> no doubt but all this discussion might just have a valid point. >> > > > >> > > > I really think T-series should treat Rahman's master tracks >> differently, not just in final packaging but also reproduction. They should >> not treat it like any other bollywood music. Rahman's are by far quite >> complex! >> > > > >> > > > Check out more on what i am sayin >> > > > >> > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Loudness_ war >> > > > >> > > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea ts.com >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! >> http://in.yahoo. com/trynew >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. >> Download Now! http://messenger. yahoo.com/ download. php >> > > >> > >> >> >> > >
