Has anybody in this forum listened to the CD in a Genelec or an equivalent studio monitor?? I think if equipment is the reason, they could help us better. Doesn't mean that one need to have an expensive monitor to enjoy the songs, but guess would help solve this problem in context. While listening to the songs in my iMac (MP3's ripped from CD), both from the internal speakers, and from the bose headphones, i don't see a sound problem. But, I have to say that it's too loud i always had to be cautious in lowering the volume bar. I will still wait for the CD to arrive.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Prasad Varma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am glad we are having a civilized discussion here on the group despite > having major differences of opinion on the sound quality. > > Wired Beats - Before I address your opinion let me chime in that I really > enjoy your remixes and have downloaded all of them and made them an integral > part of my ARR collection. I like the way you treat the tracks with respect > and care and embellish them without disturbing the essence or the soul of > the tracks. > > While loudness war has been debated previously too on this forum, I am > thinking we are barking at the wrong tree . What some of the folks like > Gomzy and Arun Kumar have been complaining is that the tracks sound mangled > or cluttered and that's the precise issue I am having trouble getting my > arms around. To me it's the opposite. Despite having several tracks of > instruments/sounds I am able to listen to all them very clearly. Using a > Video term, I'd rate the resolution of the soundtrack very high (HD 1080p > :-) :-)) . And comparison with Dil Se may not be appropriate given the > acoustic nature of that album with far fewer layers as opposed to very > technoish/multi dimensional sound of Blue. > > But I do respect the diametrically opposite viewpoint and in trying to > reconcile the opinions I can think of a couple of reasons: > > 1) Unless all of us are using Studio Monitors, we are not on a level > playing field here. I am not talking about expensive vs cheap equipment but > rather the distinct sonic reproductive traits of amplifiers/speakers. > > The same CD sounds differently to me when I listen to it on my Definitve > Technology Bipolar speakers (boomy, rich in bass) as opposed to my JBL's > which are a lot brighter and I am not even throwing the receivers into the > mix here. I have done all my Blue listening on my ipod and car stereo and I > find the sound extremely crisp and vibrant without sounding shrill. > > I am assuming that your equipment for some reason is not a perfect sonic > match to the sound created for Blue. > > 2) It also might simply boil down to something as simple as personal taste. > I am probably liking what I am hearing and you guys are not (from a pure > sound pesrpective) > > It would be helpful if someone can pinpoint the exact selections from the > album that sound jammed/muddled to you to help me better understand where > you are coming from and no Chiggy Wiggy doesn't count given the intrinsic > rhytm heavy nature of the track :-) :-) > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* ichord <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:09:49 PM > *Subject:* [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness > War! > > > > The density of arrangements of sound and instruments is high and the sonic > texture is bright and loud, but I don't find the overall sound cluttered and > jammed....I can clearly distinguish each track separately and distinctly. > Rahman added a lot of layers to the songs, and due to the combination of > density, loudness, and brightness, some here are finding that to be too > overwhelming I guess. > > > In any case, I hope that does not diminish people's enjoyment of the songs > themselves, which are awesome to me. > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, > wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> wrote: > > > > :) I am sure you are not halucinating. Even metallica's Death Magnetic > sounds good. but its been rated very bad for sound quality. Mettalica fans > have even gone to the extent of pushing for a full remasting. I am NOT > saying Blue is like that. I agree with few who say Blue could have been > better. The music is great but should have breathed more. > > > > Its not 'THAT BAD' Its good. > > > > check this http://www.youtube. com/watch? > > v=3Gmex_4hreQ<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ> > > > > regards > > > > wb > > > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea > > ts.com<http://www.wiredbeats.com/> > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: ichord <purev...@.. .> > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2009 1:47:50 AM > > Subject: [arr] Re: This might explain BLUE's audio quality - Loudness > War! > > > > > > Wow, I am really, really surprised at how mnay people here think that the > audio quality of Blue is compressed and jammed.....wow. .....I don't hear it > at all...unless I'm hallucinating sounds that are not there!!! > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats <wiredbeats@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > For those of who don;t know this There is a problem in the music > reproduction industry where companies either compel the mastering folks or > do it in-house . They take the dynamic compression to its heights. This > jumbles layers and clogs the space with too much in too little. The > crispness goes away and but volume is high and the thump is well..super. > Very club ready. Thats why i think Pritam's music is so bass heavy and > freakishly loud. > > > > > > This is called Loudness war and music composers are not to be blammed. > This explains why we see a remarkable difference in tracks from > Sony/Universals and T-series/Big Music etc. I bought a ( may be the 10th > copy) of Dil Se along with Blue. Dil Se for the same volume sounds > stunningly clear.. Blue sounds jammed ( sorry folks ). The songs are great > no doubt but all this discussion might just have a valid point. > > > > > > I really think T-series should treat Rahman's master tracks > differently, not just in final packaging but also reproduction. They should > not treat it like any other bollywood music. Rahman's are by far quite > complex! > > > > > > Check out more on what i am sayin > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Loudness_ war > > > > > > Remixes I Originals I Opinions at http://www.wiredbea ts.com > > > > > > > > > > > > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the Yahoo! India Homepage! > http://in.yahoo. com/trynew > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. > Download Now! http://messenger. yahoo.com/ download. > php<http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php> > > > > > > -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
