Hi All, If you need Excel to export csv's in the right format - take a look at this link - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291296 I've used this procedure for some time and I didn't notice any problems. Kind Regards / C ????????? Dmitry Bezhenar
________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Visser Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Import Tool v6.3 P19 or BMCRemedy's Import "Fix" Debacle ** Michelle, Unfortunately there is no "true" csv format. There are several variants, some supporting returns. Some use quoted values, some do not. From a technical point of view it is very hard to support just "csv". The import tool should be detecting the csv variant, but obviously it is only sticking to one format, which they even "fixed". What you could do is process the exported csv in such a way that the import tool will import those correctly (for example replacing the return characters). Or use a more reliable format such as xml for the export and import. Btw, Excel tends to change long colums to ##### in my csv export, and it's also using ";" (the list separator) in my csv files. For csv I've ditched Excel and I'm using OpenOffice. OpenOffice allows me to control how my csv is exported and it is working great. Hugo On 12/15/06, Lucero, Michelle - IST contractor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey, Folks: First, am I only the one who takes issue with this statement? "Remedy was never meant to import data from other sources", Tech Support by way of backline engineering. "...and working as designed. We have fixed something that was broken [for almost 15] years. I have an issue that I have been fighting since May 1, 2006. The original issue is fixed however engineering has introduced another. I mean a HUGE one that they consider to be a fix. I wholeheartedly disagree. TEST A: (Export data from external application. Import into a test Remedy form with these steps) Export about 25 records from an application with large text fields that might contain returns or commas. For sanity sake, open it in Excel. Verify that you see 25 rows of data. (You will. Excel comprehends true CSV.) Close file without saving. Open ANY other version of the import tool BESIDES Import Tool 6.3 P19. Map fields accordingly to your Remedy form. Import. Expected Results: Check test form. You should see the 25 records imported. TEST B: (Follow the same steps as listed above, with one exception. Use the 6.3 Patch 19 import tool. Undesired Results: Your 25 records might turn into 35, 40, 50, etc. For the extra records that are created, data will be thrown into incorrect fields. The first 25 rows that are listed will not contain all of the data. TEST B according to Remedy Engineering is a FIX and is working as designed. I call it an UNUSABLE data disaster. That was the bad news. The worse news is that this will be the "fix" for all subsequent patches. If Remedy Engineering really meant what they said, "Remedy was never meant to import data from other sources". Then how would new customers ever expect to migrate their data into a Remedy form. Since, I thought the statement was the most ludicrous thing I'd ever heard, I asked for it to be repeated...and it was. Since this has been going on for so long (it started with the fallback mapping issue). I honestly would welcome someone from BMC Remedy to tell me that there has been a huge miscommunication. Because if Patch 19 is the "fix" for something that has been working properly since the first time I imported data, then the import tool has now been rendered useless. We will now have to tell potential customers, "I'm sorry there is no way for us to migrate your existing data". Stepping down from my soapbox, Michelle _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
