Hi Peter

Awesome - thanks for the feedback. I am going to install Elastisearch 1.4.2
and will get it up and running before we go live with MYIT.

So far we have been really impressed with MYIT so I am sure that everything
will go smoothly.

Really appreciate the response.

Cheers
Brad

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Peter Romain <
[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> Brad,
>
>
>
> I understand that as soon as ES is installed, and MyIT configured to use
> it, it gets updated from MongoDB so you should be able to install it at any
> time.
>
>
>
> We installed ES simply because BMC recommend it to speed up searching.
>
>
>
> The installation is pretty straightforward so personally I wouldn’t wait.
>
>
>
> You said that you were just installing MyIT but there’s no separation of
> SmartIT and MyIT – you install one and you get both!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *BradRemedy
> *Sent:* 07 August 2015 08:25
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: MYIT 2.5 / ElastiSearch Versions / Mongodb versions
>
>
>
> **
>
> Hi
>
>
> Sorry wanted to ask this question in this thread. Do you guys know if it
> is possible to install elastisearch and rivers after MYIT 2.5 is installed?
>
> I am in 2 minds on whether to install it now as we wont have a knowledge
> base or any need to use a full blown elastisearch - however i am not sure
> if MYIT uses it for searching of logged requests etc.
>
>
>
> What do you guys think? Should I see how the system performs without
> elastisearch and only install it if we have problems or should I install it
> from the start. Concerned about installing software we may not need that
> just adds complexity to our Mongodb environment.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Peter Romain <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> **
>
> Brad,
>
> We are using MongoDB 2.6.8, Elasticsearch 1.4.2  and River 2.0.5 which are
> versions supported by BMC.
>
> If I remember right these are the versions that get installed when the
> latest SmartIT is installed with the bundled MongoDB even though ES & River
> aren‘t used in this case.
>
> I didn’t find the BMC guides too helpful (though they may have been
> updated since I last looked) but with help from the MongoDB and ES online
> resources and BMC support validating my configurations I finally got three
> MongoDB servers clustered each with ES installed on them also in a cluster.
>
> We’re in production with four SmartIT servers pointing at these clusters
> and all seems to be OK at the moment (though the system usage is low at the
> moment).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *BradRemedy
> *Sent:* 06 August 2015 15:50
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: MYIT 2.5 / ElastiSearch Versions / Mongodb versions
>
>
>
> **
>
> HI LJ
>
>
>
> Yeah thought as much - and i will stick to the versions that they have
> stated in their documentation - just damn irritating.
>
>
>
> Will also drop a email to BMC Support so that it is on record with them.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:38 PM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> **
>
> Brad,
>
> I hate to say this, but BMC has a history of using older versions of
> things...not that they are 'old' at the time they start using them, but by
> the time they hit production, they are typically moderately old, and they
> don't work aggressively to stay up to date on the newer versions and
> adjusting the compatibility.  There is a version of Pentaho released with
> 9.0 that, as I understand it, is about 3 years old, and 9.0 just came
> out....so, if BMC states that you need to use a specific version, that's
> the version I would use....and contact BMC and petition them to upgrade the
> versions they are using as service packs/versions come out.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:33 AM BradRemedy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> **
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I have just finished installing and configuring a mongodb high
> availability environment as per the MYIT Installation documentation.
>
> For the mongodb setup, I used the version as stated by BMC which is
> mongodb 2.6.8 as the later version are not supported.
>
>
>
> I am now planning on installing elastisearch on the secondary mongodb
> servers and they have stated that one needs to use 0.90.10 for elastisearch
> as, like mongodb, the other version are not supported.
>
>
>
> My question / concern is - if you look at the latest version of mongodb
> (which is 3.0.5) and elastisearch (which is 1.7.1) there are alot of
> improvements, enhancements and bug fixes. Should i take a chance and run
> the latest mongodb and elastic search versions ?
>
>
>
> I cannot believe that BMC want us to stay on the older versions which
> exposes us to potential bugs or less features than the newer versions. I
> have to make sure that the MYIT environment is performing optimally so that
> our end users love using it.
>
>
>
> What are your guys thoughts? Have you guys stuck to the versions stated in
> the installation documentation ? or have you managed to get the older
> versions running?
>
>
>
> Also, does anyone know how BMC plans to keep up to date with these third
> party products and their releases so that MYIT can benefit from it?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brad
>
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