Michelle,

Thanks for the input.  Getting the parameters to work in a normal search isn't 
the issue.  It's getting a parameter to work from the Defined Searches in the 
Incident Management Console.  An alternative is to do like Misi suggested and 
add start/end date fields to the Incident Management Console and push those to 
the external qualifications.  I have done this on other custom Management type 
consoles and it works fine.  I'm trying to get away from doing a lot of 
customizations to the out of box forms and get the customers to use as much of 
the out of box functionality as possible.  If I can get the Defined Searches to 
work with prompts that would eliminate the need for customizations and put the 
brunt of the work on the end users to build qualifications until their hearts 
content.  I'm trying to reach the ultimate nirvana where a customer implements 
100% of the ITSM suite with no customizations.  I've gotten really close with a 
few customers.  What I've seen over the years is that most customers only use 
23-35% of the out of box functionality and end up customizing the out of box to 
suit there needs.  When I analyze the customizations that were done 9 times out 
of 10 the functionality already existed in the out of box applications the 
customer either didn't know it was there or the developers didn't know it was 
there.  Because of this it has made ITSM upgrades extremely painful and 
expensive, which sometimes leads to customers scrapping ITSM for another 
application.  Maybe prompts in SYS:Predefined Queries isn't possible and a 
customization is required.


Brian


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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Defined Searches

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Hi,

Well, this is not the same thing as the old macros that could prompt for 
input...

You are right about the $\xxx$.

In the SYS:Predefined Queries the fields say External, which to me sound like 
it is used in an EXTERNAL() search possibly in a table field.

I was guessing that the EXTERNAL() would support something like $\536871913$ or 
$\Enter Date$ if you have such a field on the current form. So if you add these 
fields in there you might get this to work.

Or maybe you should create your own display-only-form instead with a 
table-field and the prompt functionality you need. This way you need not change 
anything in existing ITSM forms and workflow.

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January 31, 2017 9:46 PM, "Brian Pancia" 
<[email protected]<mailto:%22Brian%20Pancia%22%20<[email protected]>>> 
wrote:

Misi - $Enter Date$ is just the parameter wording.

So if you use 'Submit Date' >= "$Enter Date$" in the advanced search bar it 
will prompt you for a date and the results will return anything created after 
that date. You can save this search and run it as your own search. You could 
also put this in the defined searches and I believe it will work fine. However, 
if you try do build a search qualification on the Incident Management Console 
using the SYS:Predefined Queries form it gives you an invalid date format. I 
know with keywords like $NULL$ you need to put $\NULL$ for it to take it. I've 
played around with quotes and single tics around the parameter but I keep 
getting invalid date format. This form essentially builds the external 
qualification for the table. I don't recall ever trying to use parameters on 
external qualifications. I'm trying to limit the amount of customizations and 
put as much control into the end users hands as possible. Using SYS:Predefined 
Queries would work well. I could have users build their own queries and the 
ones they deemed worthy I could make accessible to a group of people by setting 
restricted access on SYS:Predefined Queries.

Brian

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Jason Miller 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:30 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Defined Searches
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Reading this again I might have answer the wrong question. I was talking about 
saving a keyword in a record but I think you are looking how to save a 
parameter prompt as in 
https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/ars91/Including+parameters+in+saved+or+defined+searches
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Jason Miller 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

After the first dollar sign is correct. At least that is how I have always done 
it and am doing here: https://communities.bmc.com/message/547542
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Misi Mladoniczky 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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Hi,

I thought the backslash was before the last $, but I might be wrong...

And does the $Enter Date$ field exist on the form? You might need to add it.

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January 31, 2017 3:22 PM, "Brian Pancia" 
<[email protected]<mailto:%22brian%20pancia%22%20%[email protected]%3E>>
 wrote:

I'm thinking for this requirement I may have to utilize SYS:Predefined Queries 
on the Incident Management console and then add the ability to select all and 
print to csv file. I'm trying to find the right syntax to utilize parameters in 
SYS:Predefined Queries though. I tried "$Enter Date$" and "$\Enter Date$" but 
nether one of those worked. Have you guys used parameters in setting up these 
searches?

Brian

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From: Brian Pancia
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:46 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Defined Searches

Well that's not good. I have multiple companies using the system and was hoping 
to use a backend form to control the searches without doing a whole lot of 
customization. I was hoping it pulled off the AR System Search Preferences. 
They want to run a bunch of searches based on an start/end date. I want to set 
this based on permissions. They also want to be able to export this data as 
needed to a csv file. Just doing reports won't work because they may only want 
to drill into the individual ticket data, in which they would only need the 
search and not need the report. Back to the drawing board.

Brian.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Grooms, 
Frederick W <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Defined Searches
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Defined searches are created on the form itself. In the properties of the view.

Fred

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
Brian Pancia
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Defined Searches

**

It has been awhile since I messed with this feature. Trying to setup defined 
searches on HPD:Help Desk. I setup a search and went into AR System Searches 
Preferences and set the search type to Admin-Defined. The option to Run Defined 
searches is greyed out on HPD:Help Desk. What am I missing? Version 9.1.

Brian

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