Good to hear that you are making progress!

I certainly do not consider myself to be the Change Management expert (yet),
but I have run across similar challenges.  What I have learned however, is
that aside from the notification engine piece, there are several other areas
of configuration that must be considered, and will have impact on how things
flow within CM.  They are:

Assignment Engine:
Approval Server:
Permissions:
Functional Roles:

There are many preferences and rules that must be set, which drive the
desired functionality.

By default, support users that you create will have the list of "System
Default" notification in their preferences, and assignment notifications for
Change Manager, Assignee, and Implementer are probably in the list.
However, that doesn't mean that they will automatically get those
notifications if they have not been configured with the appropriate
permissions/roles or, if some rule says otherwise.

The Approval Server is probable the most significant driving force for
notifications within CM, since this is normally a primary part of that
process (even if things are configured to NOT require approvals).

So, I would recommend looking through the Approval Server documentation, as
I think a lot of your questions may be answered there.

I know this doesn't directly address your question, but hopefully if sheds
some light.

Based on what we've talked about so far, I would guess that in your
environment, a combination of permission, and rules review should do the
trick.

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Dollus
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email - almost solved,,,

Hallelujah!!!!!!! I think I've got it :) or beginning to...

'K... so I added more Notification Events to my profile

Besides Change Manager Assignment, Change Assignee Assignment and
Implementer Assignment,,, I added Change Assignee Planning, Change Manager
Planning and Implementer Planning.  So, now I'm getting notifications when
it's in the Planning In Progress Status.

I have a question about Notification Events on the Notification Preferences
form.

What is the relevance of the adding the first 3 above if I have to add
additional just to get an assignment notification.

For example, I originally had just the Change Manager Assignment, Change
Assignee Assignment and Implementer Assignment Notification Events added to
my profile, but did not receive any notifications...  Once I added the 2nd
part, the Planning events, I'm getting notifications.  I assumed (I know...
assuming is bad..) that if I added the first 3 to my profile, I'd get
notifications any time it was assigned to me regardless of the status;
however that doesn't seem to be the case.

So, my Q is... what do those Notification Events do? (the Change Manager
Assignment, Change Assignee Assignment and Implementer Assignment) and do we
always have to add additional notification events for it to work properly?

Thanks for reading! And for your assistance!!! :)

- Mary


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Dollus
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email

Hi Leonard,

Yep on the Notification tab, all those are enabled and set to notify Both
the Chg Manager and Chg Assignee.  The Change Status's are:

Request For Change
Planning In Progress (Status Reason - Assigned, Accepted, or NULL)
Scheduled For Review
Scheduled
Rejected
Completed
Cancelled

Soooooo,, I guess this begs the question, Are those the only Status's in
which a notification is sent??  Not when it's in Draft or any other?

Maybe that's the issue.... ??

Thanks again....

- Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard Neely - FOJ
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email

And I'm assuming you've checked the "Rules" for CM under "Advanced Options"
in the (Application Administration Console) - Advanced Options?

Leonard

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Dollus
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email

Oh ok cool....

Yep they are all still enabled.

Thanks for the tip...

Any other ideas?

- Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard Neely - FOJ
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email

No, I am referring to the Approval Server settings (AP:Administration), not
in the Application Administration Console.

Leonard

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Dollus
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email

Morning Leonard,

Hmmm I've looked thru everything there but I don't see where you mean?

I looked on the Customizations tab, then under Change Management and then
under Approval, but all I see is Approval Mappings.   Is that it?

They are not using approvals right now.  They are just concerned right now
with the Assignment notifications for Change Manager, Assignee and Change
Implementer.

Thanks!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard Neely - FOJ
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email

Mary,

Just to make sure you've covered all the bases, also check the Approval
Server settings from the AP Administration console to make sure that the
notifications you want are enabled.

I have seen cases before, where these settings all got set to "Disabled"
somehow, after migration to a different server.

HTH

Leonard

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Dollus
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Change Management email

Hi everyone,,,

Bumping this issue to the top... sorry... 

We're still are having this issue and can't find any Config issues.  I also
don't see any defects listed for this.

I also forgot to add what versions we're on.

ARS 7.0.01 patch 4
App is on 7.0.02 no patches yet.... we do plan to patch to 006 asap however.

I've checked NTE:Notifier Log form and the System Default alerts have been
going out,,, just not the emails.

Thanks so much for reading!! :) and any ideas are so appreciated!! 


Mary Dollus

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Dollus
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Change Management email

Hi All,

This is a very weird thing,,,, at least I haven't encountered it before.

The email engine is running and emails are going out for Incident
Management; however they aren't for Change Management.  I tested with my
account to be sure all settings are correct. I'm set to receive email as my
default.. I set up email notifications for them instead of alert with the
default as email.  I should be getting notified if I'm assigned to Change
Manager, Change Assignee or Implementer. and also for Manager and Assignee
if it completes.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks.  a ton!!!

Mary Dollus

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

____________________________________________________________________________
___
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

_______________________________________________________________________________
UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"

Reply via email to