I fully agree with Rick.

The line of code is an easy metric for other programming but does not
reflect the quality and/or efficiency. But still all involved feel
homely (just because of familiarity) with these figures.

I feel this figure only indicates how much you can produce. Its like how
many bricks a mason can put in a day, irrespective whether it wall of
house or great wall of China.

For Remedy I feel more than line of code, function points could be more
appropriate. Of course it wont be a ready fit but it would be closest
and would require minimal alteration. I have not tried but it is on my
wish list.

Just to add about the efficiency of code I can give an example of
innocent looking filter putting system to task only because both
"Submit" and "Modify" was checked (Actually intended was only Modify).

Best Regards,

Uday Joshi

Delivery Manager - BSM Support
Technology Infrastructure Services - BSM Unit
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Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 07:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: "Lines of code" in Remedy?


** And what's really stupid about the "lines of code" in a generic,
non-Remedy sense, is that quantity often != quality.  Good programmers
might have the same number of lines in a program as a poor programmer,
but a substantial percentage of that is going to be internal code
documentation around tight subroutines and functions.  Poor programmers
(believe me, I've seen some doozys) often write lots of lines that run
inefficiently.  Same number, completely different levels of effort and
expertise to reproduce.

So while the metric, however important, has no real value outside of
Remedy, it has even less relevance and value inside of it.  So I would
resist providing a bogus number until its intended use was very clearly
specified, so that I could provide the bogus number that best protected
my application.  Just my $0.02 from another old keypunch warhorse.

Rick


On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 5:54 AM, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


        Oh contraire! Since the 1980s?! You'd be shocked.  It seems like
a
        biggie with CMM/CMMI organizations.  Both Gary (who posted
earlier) and
        I have worked in CMM/CMMI controlled organizations, and
evidently lines
        of code is a big metric within it...at least for some
organizations.

        Although I do definitely agree with you that it's 100% stupid.


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