Hi Dan,

You are correct, cc 72 was left blank in all languages unless you wanted to 
continue the line.  If non-blank (any character) the line was continued.  73-80 
was ignored by the compilers and generally used to sequence the cards.  

So, perhaps I have dated myself a tad now.  I still use the same editor that 
came out just after the punch card era.  And, if you know "pig iron", you can 
still get a job supporting, developing, etc 

And, in those days we had a proper change management application!

As for lines of code: Meta-Update is currently 70K lines.  I've worked on 
systems with over 5M.  I prefer to ask what ratio of full line comments do you 
have in your code?  I average around 25%.  Anything above 1% is above average!

Someone writing Java here told me converting a date (using the Remedy function) 
was a single line.  But when I looked (not believing him) I counted about 10 
lines.

Of course, in most languages, you could simply get rid of the lines and end up 
with one very very long line.

As for "decompiling", you end up with machine code, NOT source code, no 
comments, no headers, etc, so you cannot determine the number of lines that 
way.  

Happy (early) Friday.

Ben Chernys

>----- ------- Original Message ------- -----
>From:         Daniel Bloom
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To:           [email protected]
>Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:55:49
>
>Okay, I will reset the clock on the list server so
>we are now Friday.
>>From the original question, any Friday in the
>1970s or 80s.
>
>Don't forget to use 71 character lines (if I
>remember correctly and probably
>don't, column 72 was for an X to say this line is
>extended for at least
>Fortran and the rest were for sequencing your card
>deck in case they fell
>off where you put them and spread themselves over
>the floor).
>
>Anybody who knows the correct answer has *really*
>dated themselves.
>For the rest of you, I am going back 32 years, the
>first and last year
>I used a card punch.
>
>So David, bundle up all the responses from the
>arslist, bind them,
>Pick a number(as recommended by your peers, either
>random number or
>An inaccurate calculated one), attach a printout of
>the .def file and
>All supporting code from mid-tier, integrations
>etc. and hand it in :-)
>
>... Dan
>p.s. has everyone requested funding for the BMC
>UserWorld in Miami?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Action Request System discussion
>list(ARSList)
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bradford
>Bingel
>Sent: April 29, 2003 6:13 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: "Lines of code" in Remedy?
>
>Geez . . . no one has used the "lines of source
>code" (SLOC) measurement
>since the 1980's!  It was a poor metric then with
>monolithic languages
>(Cobol, Fortran, etc.), and it's an even poorer
>metric today using
>object-oriented software and N-tier architectures.
>
>But you may still need to provide a valid number. 
>Can anyone from Remedy
>provide a ballpark SLOC metric by application?
>
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