Fortunately, I've never been asked this so I might be off here, but wouldn't the # of lines in a def file be heavily influenced by any images (background/button/etc) on the form, making that number particularly inaccurate?
My guess would be to provide the number of workflow objects along with J.T.'s explanation of how ARS works. Thad Esser Remedy Developer "Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."-- Richard Bach "Gary Opela (Corporate)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <[email protected]> 07/09/2008 09:40 AM Please respond to [email protected] To [email protected] cc Subject Re: "Lines of code" in Remedy? ** Well, my last remedy custom app I wrote was a purchasing system. It is not yet tied in with any other remedy apps, so it?s fairly small. 22 Forms 146 Active Links 38 Filters 15 Active Link Guides 16 Menus I did a line count on the def file, and it was 64,973 lines. I just used this number and plan on just comparing it to other remedy applications. My other solution was to open each form in the mid-tier (since my app is mid-tier only), and do a view source on each form, count the number of lines for each form. Then, look at each active link, and see how many actions it performed (If and Else both), and do the same with each filter. Count those lines, and multiply them by, say, 4 or 5, and then get the menus, guides, etc. However, there was so much guessing as to how many lines of traditional code vs. remedy code would be, as well as managing the additional lines added by future upgrades, I just went with a straight line count. That way, whenever I implement a change, I just take a def file and do a line count, and I know that my last change added around 140 lines to the def file. It?s not an exact science, and I like what Matt said better, of tracking how many objects it has as opposed to how many lines of code, since lines of code is really an irrelevant metric for a remedy application. However, our CMMI processes state explicitly that Source Lines of Code would be tracked, so I had to go with the insanely large number. Thanks, Gary Opela, Jr., RSP Remedy Engineer Leader Communications, Inc. http://www.5pointleader.com http://www.lcibest.com Best Product, Best People, Best PriceTM An ISO 9001:2000 Certified, CMMI® Level 3 Rated Company From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: "Lines of code" in Remedy? David, For fun, you could export your entire system to a .def file and give the line count. Then, for fun (and I don't suggest doing this on a prod box!), export the system to .xml file and do a line count... even bigger! :) Other than that, I think the most realistic way is to do an object count: · Number of Forms · Number of Active Links · Etc.. For other Remedy developers, at least, saying you have a 60-form application with 700 filters, and 1100 Active Links, plus guides and escalations give a pretty accurate estimation of what it would take to maintain, enhance, and support the application. Good luck, Matt R. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David.M Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: "Lines of code" in Remedy? All, I've been asked to estimate the "number of lines of code we have in Remedy". Any ideas on how to approach a question like that? Feel free to save your response for Friday Humor if you prefer. Thanks, -David David M Clark Remedy Programmer/Analyst _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html_____Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ ***IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature.*** _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
