The UNIX install is that same as the other platforms - it's all the same Java 
installer, as I understand it.  Only English is selected by default - I 
selected all the other languages, because we may need to use them.  You can 
just install English if you want without any problems.

Lyle

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Subject: Re: CRITICAL:URGENT: ARSystem is taking 20 mins to start

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So was that just a rm of the other languages after install..
Have not seen the new *nix install, does it give you the option to NOT install?
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Lyle Taylor 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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We've got 7.5 with Atrim, Incident and Problem installed with ALL language 
packs with a remote Oracle database and the AR Server running on SUSE Linux 10 
, and our last restart took 2.5 minutes.  It's even faster without the extra 
language packs.  That's a definite improvement over what we were seeing before 
on 7.1 with ONE language pack installed (6-7 minutes in this environment).



Lyle



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Speaking of which ... has anyone with a remote Oracle database had a chance to 
see if they can get their startup times back down to 1-2 minutes using the 
preload cache/threads with ITSM7?

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If you are using ARS 7.5, you got to take advantage of the new "Preload Tables 
Configuration".
This feature you can find it documented in the config guide.
Open AR System Administration: Server Information, then click on the Advanced 
tab.

-Guillaume

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of patrick zandi
Sent: Thu 04/23/09 10:09 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CRITICAL:URGENT: ARSystem is taking 20 mins to start

BMC -- last time I checked:: Recommended that the Switch connections should
be the same..
I.E  ARS on same Switch as the DB server.
Traversing Subnets, and Vlans is a Drag on performance.

Do some TNSPings and see what responses are you getting ..
I believe you can add a packet length..  like   -l 5000
5000 Bite Packet in a ping..   This might help check response too.

have fun.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Lammey, Peter A.
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

> Is the database an Oracle 10gR2 database?
>
> We found out after our upgrade to AR System 7.01 and upgrade to ITSM 7.02
> applications that the Remedy application startup went up from a couple
> minutes to at least 9-10 minutes.
>
> Never discovered a good solution for it.
>
> Thanks
> Peter Lammey
> ESPN IT Client Architecture and Automation
> 860-766-4761
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:56 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>  Subject: Re: CRITICAL:URGENT: ARSystem is taking 20 mins to start
>
> Standard TSing for this would be:
>
> Is all of your hardware set at 100MB/Full (or gb if you have that capacity)
> Turn on DB logging (at the DB and arsystem level) during start, see where
> the delay is happening What type of DB is it?  MS SQL, Oracle, Sybase, etc?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Manish SINGLA
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:51 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: CRITICAL:URGENT: ARSystem is taking 20 mins to start
>
> Hello List,
>
> We are facing a issue like arsystem processes takes 20 mins to restart.
>
> Just last week we have migrated to new architecture, earlier we had
> Mid-tier/ARS and DB on same HPUX machine.
> Which usually takes 1.5 mins to start all Remedy processes.
>
> But now we have a separate machine for DB out side ARS machine but local to
> network(in same datacenter).
> Now it takes 20 mins to start.
>
> When we start first four processes starts at a glance as follows:
> root 14001 13998  0  Apr 22  ?         0:00
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/reconcile/bin/arrecond -s euxa91 -i /
> root 14003 13998  0  Apr 22  ?         0:01
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/bin/arservapd -s euxa91 -i /remedy/so
> root 14004 13998 16  Apr 22  ?        609:05
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/bin/arserverd -s euxa91 -i /remedy/so
> root 13998     1  0  Apr 22  ?         0:00
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/bin/armonitor -s euxa91 -c /etc/arsys
>
> But rest of the following takes 20 mins to start with.
>
> root 18921 13998  0  Apr 22  ?         1:09
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/bin/arplugin -s euxa91 -i /remedy/sof
> root 18919 13998  0  Apr 22  ?         0:00
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/bin/arsvcdsp -s euxa91 -d /remedy/sof
> root 18920 13998  0  Apr 22  ?         1:35
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/bin/arservdsd -s euxa91 -i /remedy/so
> root 18909 14004  0  Apr 22  ?         0:01
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/bin/arforkd -s euxa91 -l /remedy/soft
> root 18012     1  0 10:39:01 ?         0:00 sh -c
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/sla/bin/brsvcbrie
> root 18013 18012 23 10:39:01 ?        29:32
> /remedy/software/ARSystem/sla/bin/brsvcbrie
>
>
> ARSystem is quite trivial and frequent at server level, hence we can't
> afford this much of delay which leads to outage.
>
> Please advice ASAP. Will be very grateful to you.
>
> Regards
> Manish
>
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