go out to www.cm-ug.org and bmcdn as well, and check stuff out. There is alot of information.. between BIM / CM / CDI / AIE / TD there are 22,000 pages of documentation.
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:11 PM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff, product is pretty good, > But there are alot of little things that will kill ya. > there are alot of little things that just do not work very well in a real > work scenario and I am convinced > of a bunch of upgrade and fix actions still could be done with these > products.. > I run into something every week. > > like setting up an adam on the cm server and then setting up the ad > syncronization to the real ad domain > because you have to run an LDIF script to modify the AD network and > security will not let you do it. > That is another time consuming process, with it's little details../. > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:05 PM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> </Rant> >> Another thing with the CMDB -- to CM -- Integrations is the server fallout >> of information. >> I am have some issues with the multiple nic / cm agent output into the >> cmdb. >> For example: Server A have 5 nics all at 10 gbs of so. >> so now I get hostnames of the following in the cmdb. >> Hostname >> Hostname-bur >> Hostname-mgt >> Hostname-pri >> Hostname-back >> Then TD comes in and I also get >> Hostname:Domain.name >> IP >> ----------------------- Reason >> Each hostname is connected to a different nic, so it is a different item. >> Each IP is individual if you cannot access the box -- which you need sudo >> rights and a global account (security risk -- not allowed) >> TD: has no ability to do multiple TD's Multi-tenecy -- It says it does.. >> but it is a Manual Process.. >> you have to change the company, and then shutdown the service and start >> the service backup (which cannot be done without a RFC -- Request for >> change -- Change request) and then scan and syncronized, Then change the >> name to the next co. and start process all over again. >> CM-- latest agents for 7.2 is java 1.4.2_19 JRE Run (insecure -- java >> already hacked, and insecure) so this means you have to have 7.5 -- but that >> means you have to have ARS 7.5, ITSM 7.5, CMDB 7.5, AIE 7.5, DSL 7.5, CDI >> 7.5, and Oh, there are about 12 little bugs that you have to know about, >> like -- if you are using oracle with AIE and CDI then on a Tues with a full >> moon, ensure you are standing on 1 leg and barking but like a chow chow, not >> like a coyote.. ERRRRrrrr >> --------/Rant >> P.S See previous rant about how engineering is behind.. >> >> OH, and if you have plans of 2008 server Windows.. you might want to wait, >> (or you have no choice) as the compatibility is almost 0. >> ---/Finally >> >> just thought I would mention it.. >> >> CM is on 8.0 now as well, (consider it a finial release) as Bladelogic is >> the main beast for CM now... >> >> and there is not just an HOSTNAME >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:47 PM, strauss <stra...@unt.edu> wrote: >> >>> We are trying to build this out for our site as we upgrade from 7.1 to >>> 7.5 in another case where we don't have Asset Mgmt, and have already seen a >>> number of issues: >>> >>> 1. The Topology Discovery and Foundation Discovery 1.6 product only works >>> with 7.1, not 7.5. >>> >>> 2. The 7.5 version is called BMC Atrium Discovery and Dependency Mapping >>> (ADDM) and replaces the other two mainly in that it is a single >>> installation; it is required to work with CMDB 7.5. >>> >>> 3. <RANT> We just purchased the Topology Discovery and Foundation >>> Discovery product, downloaded 1.6, then found we needed the newer version to >>> work with 7.5, and THEN were told that it is a "different" product >>> (horse#*%^) and that we did not have access to it (7.5 was released while >>> our Discovery purchase was being processed). If you read the ADDM 7.5 docs >>> they show clearly that is the upgrade AND BUG FIX for the earlier 1.6 >>> product, so no, it is the same product, just renamed and renumbered like >>> everything else in the BMC stable. So, buyer beware - they are trying to >>> run a shell game on us here. </RANT> >>> >>> 4. The db for either one of these products must be case sensitive. Most >>> of use running ARS against SQL Server have never even installed it with case >>> sensitive collation, so I plan to set up a separate SQL Server just for >>> Discovery; I can't use any of my existing servers which are all case >>> insensitive. >>> >>> 5. BMC docs indicate that Discovery should be on its own server, separate >>> from ARS and anything else, and that the db should be separate; my plan is >>> to put the SQL Server and Discovery server on a dedicated box, at least at >>> first, if we can ever get to the 7.5 code. >>> >>> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. >>> Call Tracking Administration Manager >>> University of North Texas Computing & IT Center >>> http://itsm.unt.edu/ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>> arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 >>> CS/SCBAH >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:56 PM >>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>> Subject: Re: CMDB and Discovery >>> >>> One more thing, can the discovery server be the same piece of hardware >>> as the discovery server? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gary Opela, Jr. >>> Sr. Remedy Engineer >>> Avaya Phone Admin >>> RSP Cert, Sec+ >>> 405 739 7006 x30043 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Matt Ferrigno >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:44 PM >>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>> Subject: Re: CMDB and Discovery >>> >>> ** One other thing worth mentioning. The Configuration Discovery >>> integration relies on items that are installed with EIE. When I did the >>> integration, it failed because we only had AIE installed (which left out >>> some of the original EIE components). The answer was installing EIE and >>> then upgrading to AIE before performing the Configuration Discovery >>> Integration. This was a bug in the install process and I'm not sure if >>> it has been addressed yet. >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Matt Ferrigno >>> <matthew.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The answer depends on what discovery tool you plan to use. >>> Here's the answer for the two that I know. >>> >>> Foundation Discovery/Topology Discovery: >>> AR Server >>> CMDB >>> FD/TD >>> DSL (A local copy of the DSL is also installed on the Discovery >>> Server, the versions of DSL need to match on the Discovery and AR >>> servers) >>> >>> Configuration Discovery: >>> AR Server >>> CMDB >>> Configuration Discovery >>> AIE >>> DSL (Configuration Discovery does not require a local install of >>> the DSL on the Discovery server as it looks to DSL on the AR Server for >>> normalization) >>> >>> I believe these products have now been combined into a single >>> product, in which case I would imagine they would use AIE to pull data >>> into the CMDB and also utilize the DSL on the AR Server for >>> normalization. >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Roger Justice >>> <rjust2...@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> ** CMDB needs AR Server since it is an ARS application. >>> All Reconciliation mapping are installed when you do the Discovery >>> integration to CMDB. The data is passed from Discovery to CMDB using >>> CMDB API calls >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH >>> <gary.opela....@tinker.af.mil> >>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >>> Sent: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:56 pm >>> Subject: CMDB and Discovery >>> >>> >>> ** >>> BMC Remedy 7.1 >>> >>> Hello all. I am curious as to what all is required if I >>> were to want to use BMC Discovery to populate the CMDB? >>> >>> Would I only need CMDB, Discovery, and DSL, or would >>> there be additional utilities or tools required (other than the obvious, >>> such as arserver)? >>> >>> I am mainly looking to get the data into the CMDB. I'm >>> not concerned about presenting it in Asset Management at this point, >>> only in populating the CMDB. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gary Opela, Jr. >>> Sr. Remedy Engineer >>> Avaya Phone Admin >>> RSP Cert, Sec+ >>> 405 739 7006 x30043 >>> >>> _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: >>> "Where the Answers Are"_ >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop: Now in 6 vibrant colors! 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