Well, installers are becoming more and more complex, so this does not bode 
well...
It is now possible (and BMC supported) to have different versions of modules of 
the ITSM suite in the same server, such as Service Desk 7.0.3 and Change Mgmt 
7.51 or 7.6: individual modules can be upgraded individually. So the installer 
needs to be smart enough to upgrade the modules at different versions, and 
therefore to account for different versions...

For all this complexity to work, there has to be more quality put in the 
installers, otherwise nobody will even try having different ITSM modules at 
different versions.... People will keep upgrading the whole enchilada.
BTW, I would not want to be on the bleeding edge of running different ITSM 
modules at different versions, I prefer other customers to try it first and 
find the bugs :-)

Guillaume

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [[email protected]] on 
behalf of Rick Cook [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SLM 7.6 Patch 001

** Yeah, at times like that, I am reminded of the "Quality" mug in the Dilbert 
strip. That would be the mug that left the "Q" off of the word, then the handle 
fell off, the mug broke, and Asok got shards. Epic Fail.

BMC/Remedy does so many things well. It is too bad that building quality 
installers isn't among them.

Rick

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From: strauss <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:01:08 -0500
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SLM 7.6 Patch 001

It isn’t the first time, by a long shot, that their installers have used an 
outdated client executable.  Sort of like the installers that only worked if 
Demo had a blank password.

This patch was also supposed to “fix” problems with the SLM Help files.  I 
still have to try it on a different server set to confirm it, but on the first 
one I tried it on it actually made things worse; instead of help launching from 
the SLM Console to a location other than the main index, it doesn’t launch at 
all – the URL is completely invalid.

It’s just one of many woes impeding our progress towards an ITSM 7.6 
implementation; the 7.5.00 Patch 004 User Tool was dead on arrival – hangs 
completely on any console or page with a flashboard embedded in it.  They just 
got me an updated aruser.exe that appears to work now (the fifth version since 
the patch); I think they had left out support for a Default Web Path that was 
https: instead of http:, but I haven’t gotten an explanation.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SLM 7.6 Patch 001

**
wow... good catch, that is messed up
So BMC itself is using something unsupported

Guillaume
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [[email protected]] on 
behalf of strauss [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: SLM 7.6 Patch 001
**
FYI, SLM 7.6.00 Patch 001 was released today, and includes updated Help.  
Unfortunately they used a version 5.1.x installer for the help (not the patch), 
so if your server is limited to a minimum-api-version of 10 (ARS 6.0) or higher 
like ours was, the help installer will fail to authenticate.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/
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