I second the motion.  What's better then seeing how the mothership uses
their own product?  I remember being impressed with some of the stuff they
were doing when taking the tour in Pleasanton back in 2002.

Jason

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

> ** Sounds like a great idea for a WWRUG 2010 session.  "How BMC eats its
> own dog food."
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Guillaume Rheault <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> **
>>  Why not.... Eating your won food should be a principle for every
>> corporation.
>> Two examples that come to mind: HP and Oracle. HP embarked in a huge
>> project to consolidate all its data centers; at the end of that project,
>> they will be able to tell their clients the hurdles they encountered and
>> best practices of that monumental task. Oracle used to have a customer
>> database for each country, with distinct financials and sales apps linked to
>> each DB per country. So it was all siloed by country. Years ago they
>> embarked in a 5 year project to have a single database for all the countries
>> with all financial and sales apps ruinning out of that single database. So
>> now... they are advising their customers to do just that.
>>
>> I would really like to know what ITSM and IT operational tools BMC uses. I
>> have never seen any presentation on that.... Maybe it's out there somewhere
>> and I haven't seen it....
>>
>> Guillaume
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> [email protected]] on behalf of Rick Cook [[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 09, 2010 3:55 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: AR System 7.5.00 Patch 005 and 7.1.00 Patch 010
>>
>>  ** And do we really want to start a discussion about why an industry
>> leader in the creation and selling of tools that enforce ITIL practices is
>> unable to leverage those tools to follow those practices in it's own
>> environment?
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Guillaume Rheault <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>  I vote for that.
>>> I really don't care or mind if the patch number high. I also agree that
>>> this is proper release mgmt.
>>> Maybe a lister can take a look at the Service Transitioning ITIL guide to
>>> see what is the best practice
>>>
>>> Guillaume
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> [email protected]] on behalf of Rick Cook [[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 09, 2010 3:37 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: AR System 7.5.00 Patch 005 and 7.1.00 Patch 010
>>>
>>>  ** So we have two versions of 7.5 patch 5, and will soon probably have
>>> a third.  Having the ability to ascertain which of those I have installed
>>> would be much more useful if we had some sort of lookup table available to
>>> tell us which of the three we had installed, so that we would be able to
>>> know whether it was the most current one.  Our operational issues require
>>> that we be able to identify what's on our systems.  Something like the
>>> SHARE:ApplicationProperties would be a natural place for that, but I would
>>> hope that you could identify someplace that could be updated more quickly
>>> and regularly.
>>>
>>>
>>> A simpler solution would be to simply increment the patch numbers each
>>> time one is released or fixed, and disable those known to be failures.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Rick
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>>>
>>
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