I would be curious to understand what all of your thoughts were on the
Overlay feature. It's supposed to support the best practices
customization strategy for BMC. However, what I've heard is that it
introduces so much new workflow (and that it is essentially a brand new
feature), that it doesn't make sense if you keep your customizations to
a minimum and have them well documented. Anyone else have real life
experience using overlays and actually troubleshooting any issues that
are related to it? 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.
Analyst, Service Management
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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ITSM 7.6.4

Having worked for a little more than a decade with these products, I
often 
echo similar sentiments.. It makes some of our experiences less
significant 
although not completely obsolete.

Having said that though I sometimes do appreciate some of the changes.
The 
one change that I often found myself condemning often was the change
with 
the development tool formally known to us as the Admin tool.

I almost resisted that change until I really worked with the new tool. 
Having experienced some of the benefits of the new Dev Studio, I really 
wonder if I would be willing to switch back over to the old one.

I still do not like some of the control taken away from developers, with
the 
introduction of numerous plugins, some of which depend on external jar
files 
etc. that cannot easily be customized. Well it can but not with a point
and 
click like in the past. You cant help but notice though the significant 
change in look and feel of consoles that would just not be possible
without 
these changes.. So I guess it has all come at some cost. Its no longer
fully 
true that you can customize the applications in under a few weeks like 
Remedy used to claim in the past, which at one point was their biggest 
marketing propaganda. Gives us all a little extra work.. Can you
complain.. 
:-)

Joe

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sanford, Claire
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:13 PM Newsgroups: 
public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ITSM 7.6.4

I don't understand why BMC is making this product so much harder for
people 
to upgrade and use.  My whole user base will have to learn a whole new 
product this time around.  The selling point was that they were used to 
Remedy and there wouldn't be so much pain involved.  We have so many
people 
that depend on the classic view and the ability to have a "private" tab.

(((Just my opinion)))

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ITSM 7.6.4

Not a rumor.  There is a Statement of Direction posted:

24-Sep-2010 Provides end of life information for BMC Remedy ITSM Classic

views.
http://documents.bmc.com/products/documents/46/22/174622/174622.pdf


-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform BMC Software, Inc.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Philip, Saji L
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ITSM 7.6.4

Yes there is still a classic view.  By default, the best practice view
is 
shown.  But I have heard rumors, that BMC will stop the classic view 
altogether.


Saji

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Atul Vohra
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ITSM 7.6.4

Yes

There is a separate form for Help Desk (do not remember the name) for 
classic view. Also the view (form) shown is configurable from the 
Application Administration Console.


Atul


-----Original Message-----
From: "Frank Caruso" [[email protected]]
Date: 03/08/2011 01:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: ITSM 7.6.4

** Can anyone confirm for me whether there is now only one view of the
Help 
Desk form, the Best Practice View?
Older versions you cold toggle between the BPV and the Classic View.

Thank you

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