Doug,

Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions!!

Yes, this helps a lot and what I suspected, but just wanted to make sure I
got it correct.

Lisa Kemes

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Mueller, Doug <[email protected]>wrote:

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> Lisa,****
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> The other answers you have gotten are accurate, but they do not really
> address the question that you asked****
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> so I wanted to send a note to make sure that all was clear.****
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> First, you can overlay many different things.  In your situation, there
> are three that are significant:****
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> Forms****
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> Views****
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> Fields****
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> The Form overlay covers the FORM PROPERTIES and is a container if you are
> trying to overlay something that****
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> the form contains.****
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> The View overlay covers the VIEW PROPERTIES and the DISPLAY PROPERTIES of
> fields.****
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> The Field overlay covers the FIELD PROPERTIES – everything about a field
> that is not a display property.****
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> In your case, you are overlaying a Form to cover a form property.  This
> does not overlay the view or any field****
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> on the form.****
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> When you upgrade, the form overlay is overlaying the form properties so if
> there are changes to the form****
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> properties (the default get list or indexes or something else like that),
> your overlay will not pick it up.  Note****
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> that indexes are a special exception as they will really be there as they
> are needed for base but otherwise, you****
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> will not see the form properties.****
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> However, you have not overlaid the view or fields or anything else so all
> changes there will show through.****
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> Any new fields or changed view or anything else will show through without
> issue…..****
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> Now, to go back to David's answer about views.****
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> If you ADDITIONALLY added a new field for example as a new custom field to
> your form, you would then****
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> overlay the view (needed to make that field visible) and create a custom
> field.  On upgrade, your custom****
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> field would be there and your overlaid view would remain in place.  Any
> change to the screen layout would****
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> not show through (you would have to drop and recreate the view overlay and
> then add your custom field****
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> back in).  Any change to field properties other than display would come
> through as you did not overlay the****
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> individual fields.****
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> And, as David noted, there may be a fix for the need to overlay the view
> in a blocking way so that even display****
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> properties for other fields would come through in a future release.****
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> So, for your situation, your form overlay and change to form properties
> without overlaying view or field would****
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> inherit all view/field changes of an upgrade.  Only the form properties
> themselves are overlaid.****
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> I hope this clarification helps,****
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> Doug Mueller****
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lisa Kemes
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 10:19 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Overlays and Original Forms (Easy Question)****
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> We are using ARS 7.6.04****
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> I have a simple change I would like to make to a form (turning on the
> What's This feature by going to Properties/Menu Access/ and checking
> "help")  I'm surprised that this feature isn't automatically turned on, but
> I'm new to the OOB ITSM.****
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> So I have to create an Overlay to the form to change this, no problem.****
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> My question is, when we eventually upgrade to 8.0 this overlay will not be
> touched (thus keeping my customization), but the original form below it
> might change (like maybe a new field, etc).****
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> Are these changes to the original form when upgraded, show up on the
> Overlay?****
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> Just trying to understand......****
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> Thanks!****
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>  ****
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> Lisa****
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> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ****
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