Doug,

We are in a similar situation and we were told by BMC support that the WUT 
7.6.04 client is not supported on 8.1 server.  If any issues occur, that 
no support is provided.  Is this still a true comment, or is there a shift 
in the support model, and BMC will provide support of the WUT 7.6.04 on a 
server 8.x?
Thank you,

Pascale Sterrett

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I would strongly encourage you to go with 8.1 for the AR System.

The 7.6.04 Windows client is fully compatible with and runs with full 
functionality
and capability against the 8.1 server and we have many customers who use 
this
combination for environments or situations where there is still some use 
of the
Windows native client.  And, I see there have been several responses to 
the list
of customers with this combination with no issues.

For any development, you would want to move to the 8.1 version of Dev 
Studio.  You
do need to remember that any client side feature that was added since 
7.6.04 will
not be available to the Windows client.

As noted by another list member, all 8.1 server side features will be 
fully
available.

Now, I would also set up the 8.1 mid-tier and validate that your 
application
runs without issue there.  You can have that up and available for anyone 
who
wants to come in that route.  You do not have to force it, people can use 
the
WUT if they desire, but as people find that they can move around to 
different
machines and have full access to things on the Web and the app in its full
capability is available there, transition does start to happen.

And, if you do add to the functionality using things that take advantage 
of 8.x
features, they will work just fine in the mid-tier (although not in WUT) 
and you
can continue moving your application forward as another draw to the web 
delivery.

The system does allow you to take things in stages and to have gradual 
transitions
from where you are to where you want to be in the future.

The upgrade should be nice and simple and transparent (of course try in 
dev first
and in a test environment second to make sure that there are no problems 
-- with
backups to protect from failure.  this is all of course just good 
practice).  The
AR System upgrades are generally clean and easy -- OK, an occasional issue 
in the
past if you have customized a system form but even that is better in the 
newer
releases.

Happy journey as you move forward with your solution,

Doug Mueller

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Subject: 7.6.4 Client with 8.1 server

Hello - 

I'm involved in a bit of a nightmare project. 
I'll spare you most of the details, but, I'm upgrading a custom Remedy app 
from 4.5 to either 7.6.4 or 8.1.

It's currently on 15+ year old hardware that's failing. (Unix, Oracle.) We 
have new modern hardware ready to go for the replacement.

I've been doing remedy dev since 1999, so I'm up to the task.

There are a million things I'm going to run into, but my one big question 
is related to the Windows User tool.
All of the users have only ever used the User tool; they've never even 
seen the midtier. I'd like to use 8.1 because it will remain supported 
longer and this will likely go a long time before being upgraded again. 
Also, there are some new features I'm interested in. However, if the 7.6.4 
client doesn't play well with 8.1, I'll be forced to install 7.6.

My questions: Have you been running the 7.6.4 user tool against an 8.1 
server? For how long? How well is it working?

Based on past experiences with backwards compatibility with Remedy, I'm 
imagining it will work well enough, but I wanted to check to make sure.

Oh, and to head off anyone saying to just force them to use the midtier - 
that will be a political battle, not a technology battle. We are going to 
make the midtier available to them, but the app is used by another 
department and they have dictated that they need the user tool.

Thanks everyone.

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