Ask him for a guaranteed signing bonus of say, oh I don't know, US Dollars Ten 
Thousand?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Natalie K Stroud" <nkst...@sandia.gov>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 4:09:00 PM
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Recruiters Odd NDA

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Scott: 

  

I do see where the guy is coming from – he’s looking after his own interests, 
and I can understand his wanting to do that.  I can even imagine a few 
experiences which may have prompted the writing of that particular NDA.  I 
think the problem is, he’s so busy looking after his own interests that he 
doesn’t really think about how confining the arrangement being proposed is for 
the people he’s claiming to serve by hooking them up with prospective 
employers.  I can’t imagine anyone except someone desperate agreeing to that.  
While it can be helpful to work with recruiters, that particular arrangement 
seems a bit too one-sided in his side’s favor to me. 

  

And if he’s pressuring you, on the one hand, I can appreciate that he’s out 
hustling to try and find people, but on the other, he really does need to leave 
things up to you.  Letting people make their own decisions is basic respect, 
and if he has a valid position with competitive wages to offer, he shouldn’t 
need to pressure you – you’re either interested or you’re not.  So either he’s 
a basically decent guy who is simply trying too hard or else he’s a 
not-so-decent sort with some other agenda motivating him. 

  

Personally, I’d probably steer clear.  I see enough yellow flags here that 
working with “the Company” seems like a risk I’d prefer to avoid. 

  

Best of luck, 

  

Natalie Stroud 

SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories 

ARS-ITSM Reporting Specialist 

Albuquerque, NM USA 

nkst...@sandia.gov 

ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 

  

  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Hallenger 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 1:08 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Recruiters Odd NDA 

  

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I've been goig back and fourth with a recruiter on a position that is totally 
remote. Mind you I have no hire letter, and have had no interview thus far, and 
this all started today. I dont know this guy from adam. Below is what he sends 
me in his NDA doc. Sorry but I refused to sign his doc which he tried to 
pressure me into signing like a car salesman or something. Did I over react? 


  


  


1. During the period when Name_Less , Inc. (the “Company”) is marketing your 
skills and for 
a period of 3 months thereafter, you shall not directly or indirectly solicit 
the business of (or 
otherwise deal in a manner adverse to the Company with) or provide any software 
engineering, consulting or programming services to any customer or prospective 
customer of 
the Company where you are introduced by the Company. Furthermore, during the 
course of 
Evaluatory interviews and other meetings that the Company organizes between you 
and its 
customers or prospective customers, you agree that you will not offer your 
services directly or 
indirectly to (or otherwise deal in a manner adverse to the Company with) the 
Customers or 
prospective customers of the Company. 


  


2. In the event that you breach the provisions of this Agreement, you agree to 
pay the 
Company as liquidated damages and not as a penalty a further sum of US Dollars 
Ten 
Thousand. You acknowledge that liquidated damages in such amount is reasonable 
under 
the circumstances in light of the fact that significant damages and expenses 
will be suffered or 
incurred by the Company 

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