First off, as to Claire's earlier comment, I am truly flattered..... I'm not sure why anyone would have thought this to be any different then it has ALWAYS been when BMC ran this thing. I still remember giving an ear full to some poor staffer in San Diego back in 2006 (I think) about how upset I was that it was nothing more then one long marketing tool for the ITSM suite.... At the time, all I did was development, and it was pretty darn evident that BMC no longer wished to sell the ARSystem as a development platform.
I've not been able to get to many of these since I left the University of Washington (it is so much harder to convince a profit motivated manager of these things then a University manager!), and I had hoped to go to this, but now I'm not so sure.... Maybe I'm just better off finding a good class somewhere.... BMC, you really need to start listening to this group. They are some of your Remedy products biggest fans. We can can be a bit of handful sometimes, but we're worth it! Stop treating this as a way to just sell your products. We've already bought into that. Instead, think about how YOU can help US to better leverage these products. Do a better job in running this event. Perhaps give it to the education and engineering/R&D departments, and leave the sales staff at home! *sigh* On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tami Palacky <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > too funny Jason!!! > > seems they are going back to how BMC used to run the conference. too bad > there is no more WWRUG. i guess the guys got burned out. :( > > > On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:57:42 PM UTC-4, Jason Miller wrote: > >> ** >> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE. >> Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have >> an impact. Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an >> impact on the overlay. >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We >>> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe >>>> panel like, or small breakouts or something... >>>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for >>>> this... >>>> >>>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not >>>> attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, >>>> we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something? >>>> >>>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" >>>> and whatever? >>>> >>>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it >>>> (that could be a problem with BMC rules though). >>>> >>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ** >>>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. >>>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love >>>> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to >>>> go. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed >>>>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: >>>>> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ** >>>>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM: >>>>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20- >>>>>> 2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on >>>>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 >>>>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ** >>>>>> >>>>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with >>>>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go? Will they even have >>>>>> them? >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing >>>>>>> World. We haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to just >>>>>>> let it >>>>>>> soak in for a day or two?.?.?. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few >>>>>>> presentations by customers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <Claire....@ >>>>>>> memorialhermann.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just shaking my head… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>>>>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems the list is on now: >>>>>>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <Claire....@ >>>>>>>> MEMORIALHERMANN.ORG> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are certainly trusting Terry! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate. >>>>>>>> I can see it now… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to >>>>>>>> be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> content is. There is an early bird discount!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what >>>>>>>> you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ME: Big Sigh… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye >>>>>>>> to that $75! Hehe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the agenda >>>>>>>> is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and paid >>>>>>>> for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up >>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee. Well, we'll see about that. >>>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Terry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lynn Larsen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a >>>>>>>> conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should not >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> “early bird” pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even >>>>>>>> published, in my opinion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through >>>>>>>> their conference desk. We are adults. We should be able to make our >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> reservations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I >>>>>>>> can get approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> before it became WWRUG! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and >>>>>>>> giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> travel arrangements than BMC. Let's just hope they don't completely >>>>>>>> miss >>>>>>>> the mark on this conference. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that >>>>>>>> lots of marketing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this even worth going to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> ___________________ >>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >>>>>>>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note: This e-mail and any attachments may be privileged and >>>>>>>> confidential and protected from disclosure. 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