I couldn't agree more Bruce.... On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Brukeste G <bruke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ** > As a solution to the conference sales approach....why attend a conference > that's all salesy. > > Why would I pay $2000 plus, to go to a sales rally vs just asking remedy > to come to the office and demo their products? I know they will show ;) > > I hope they add technical back in....for developers it just makes sense. > > Thoughts? > > On Jul 29, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ** > Looks like they updated the session times to more reasonable values. Some > of that may be time zone adjustment, but at least evenings now look free > for networking and other activities. > > I know that not everyone is ready for the advanced stuff, and that we need > sessions at all levels. But I see maybe 5-6 breakouts I would definitely > attend. The rest are kinda meh... > > Rick > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II < > warrenbaltim...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ** >> err...that would be San Jose.... heh...still haven't had my full load of >> coffee..... >> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II < >> warrenbaltim...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> First off, as to Claire's earlier comment, I am truly flattered..... >>> >>> I'm not sure why anyone would have thought this to be any different then >>> it has ALWAYS been when BMC ran this thing. I still remember giving an ear >>> full to some poor staffer in San Diego back in 2006 (I think) about how >>> upset I was that it was nothing more then one long marketing tool for the >>> ITSM suite.... At the time, all I did was development, and it was pretty >>> darn evident that BMC no longer wished to sell the ARSystem as a >>> development platform. >>> >>> I've not been able to get to many of these since I left the University >>> of Washington (it is so much harder to convince a profit motivated manager >>> of these things then a University manager!), and I had hoped to go to this, >>> but now I'm not so sure.... Maybe I'm just better off finding a good class >>> somewhere.... >>> >>> BMC, you really need to start listening to this group. They are some of >>> your Remedy products biggest fans. We can can be a bit of handful >>> sometimes, but we're worth it! Stop treating this as a way to just sell >>> your products. We've already bought into that. Instead, think about how >>> YOU can help US to better leverage these products. Do a better job in >>> running this event. Perhaps give it to the education and >>> engineering/R&D departments, and leave the sales staff at home! >>> >>> *sigh* >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tami Palacky <tpala...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> too funny Jason!!! >>>> >>>> seems they are going back to how BMC used to run the conference. too >>>> bad there is no more WWRUG. i guess the guys got burned out. :( >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:57:42 PM UTC-4, Jason Miller wrote: >>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on >>>>> ENGAGE. Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC >>>>> won't have an impact. Except if they delete one of us in base, that will >>>>> have an impact on the overlay. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ** >>>>>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. >>>>>> We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, >>>>>>> maybe panel like, or small breakouts or something... >>>>>>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for >>>>>>> this... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not >>>>>>> attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long >>>>>>> time, >>>>>>> we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or >>>>>>> something? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", >>>>>>> "community" and whatever? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it >>>>>>> (that could be a problem with BMC rules though). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. >>>>>>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. >>>>>>> Love >>>>>>> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of >>>>>>>> unnamed speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: >>>>>>>> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM: >>>>>>>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20- >>>>>>>>> 2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on >>>>>>>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 >>>>>>>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <remed...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with >>>>>>>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go? Will they even have >>>>>>>>> them? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <jason....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>> Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing >>>>>>>>>> World. We haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to just >>>>>>>>>> let it >>>>>>>>>> soak in for a day or two?.?.?. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few >>>>>>>>>> presentations by customers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <Claire....@ >>>>>>>>>> memorialhermann.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just shaking my head… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>>>>>>>>>> ars...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It seems the list is on now: >>>>>>>>>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <Claire....@ >>>>>>>>>>> MEMORIALHERMANN.ORG> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You are certainly trusting Terry! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird >>>>>>>>>>> rate. I can see it now… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me >>>>>>>>>>> to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea >>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>> the content is. There is an early bird discount!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on >>>>>>>>>>> what you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to >>>>>>>>>>> spend. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ME: Big Sigh… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say >>>>>>>>>>> goodbye to that $75! Hehe >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma < >>>>>>>>>>> tboo...@objectpath.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the >>>>>>>>>>> agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and >>>>>>>>>>> paid for the conference with the understanding that I could >>>>>>>>>>> de-register up >>>>>>>>>>> to a certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee. Well, we'll see about >>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Terry >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Lynn Larsen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a >>>>>>>>>>> conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should >>>>>>>>>>> not be >>>>>>>>>>> “early bird” pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even >>>>>>>>>>> published, in my opinion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go >>>>>>>>>>> through their conference desk. We are adults. We should be able >>>>>>>>>>> to make >>>>>>>>>>> our own reservations. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no >>>>>>>>>>> way I can get approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to >>>>>>>>>>> the way it >>>>>>>>>>> was before it became WWRUG! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating >>>>>>>>>>> and giving people the information they need to decide, get >>>>>>>>>>> approvals and >>>>>>>>>>> make travel arrangements than BMC. Let's just hope they don't >>>>>>>>>>> completely >>>>>>>>>>> miss the mark on this conference. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan < >>>>>>>>>>> david_...@brown.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that >>>>>>>>>>> lots of marketing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is this even worth going to? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> ___________________ >>>>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Note: This e-mail and any attachments may be privileged and >>>>>>>>>>> confidential and protected from disclosure. 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