err...that would be San Jose.... heh...still haven't had my full load of coffee.....
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II < warrenbaltim...@gmail.com> wrote: > First off, as to Claire's earlier comment, I am truly flattered..... > > I'm not sure why anyone would have thought this to be any different then > it has ALWAYS been when BMC ran this thing. I still remember giving an ear > full to some poor staffer in San Diego back in 2006 (I think) about how > upset I was that it was nothing more then one long marketing tool for the > ITSM suite.... At the time, all I did was development, and it was pretty > darn evident that BMC no longer wished to sell the ARSystem as a > development platform. > > I've not been able to get to many of these since I left the University of > Washington (it is so much harder to convince a profit motivated manager of > these things then a University manager!), and I had hoped to go to this, > but now I'm not so sure.... Maybe I'm just better off finding a good class > somewhere.... > > BMC, you really need to start listening to this group. They are some of > your Remedy products biggest fans. We can can be a bit of handful > sometimes, but we're worth it! Stop treating this as a way to just sell > your products. We've already bought into that. Instead, think about how > YOU can help US to better leverage these products. Do a better job in > running this event. Perhaps give it to the education and > engineering/R&D departments, and leave the sales staff at home! > > *sigh* > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tami Palacky <tpala...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> ** >> too funny Jason!!! >> >> seems they are going back to how BMC used to run the conference. too bad >> there is no more WWRUG. i guess the guys got burned out. :( >> >> >> On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:57:42 PM UTC-4, Jason Miller wrote: >> >>> ** >>> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE. >>> Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have >>> an impact. Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an >>> impact on the overlay. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. >>>> We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe >>>>> panel like, or small breakouts or something... >>>>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for >>>>> this... >>>>> >>>>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not >>>>> attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long >>>>> time, >>>>> we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something? >>>>> >>>>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" >>>>> and whatever? >>>>> >>>>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it >>>>> (that could be a problem with BMC rules though). >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. >>>>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. >>>>> Love >>>>> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to >>>>> go. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed >>>>>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: >>>>>> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM: >>>>>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20- >>>>>>> 2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on >>>>>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 >>>>>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <remed...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with >>>>>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go? Will they even have >>>>>>> them? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <jason....@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing >>>>>>>> World. We haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to just >>>>>>>> let it >>>>>>>> soak in for a day or two?.?.?. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few >>>>>>>> presentations by customers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <Claire....@ >>>>>>>> memorialhermann.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just shaking my head… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >>>>>>>>> ars...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It seems the list is on now: >>>>>>>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <Claire....@ >>>>>>>>> MEMORIALHERMANN.ORG> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You are certainly trusting Terry! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate. >>>>>>>>> I can see it now… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to >>>>>>>>> be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> content is. There is an early bird discount!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what >>>>>>>>> you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ME: Big Sigh… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye >>>>>>>>> to that $75! Hehe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma <tboo...@objectpath.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the >>>>>>>>> agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and paid >>>>>>>>> for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up >>>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee. Well, we'll see about that. >>>>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Terry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Lynn Larsen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a >>>>>>>>> conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should not >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> “early bird” pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even >>>>>>>>> published, in my opinion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Sanford, Claire >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go >>>>>>>>> through their conference desk. We are adults. We should be able to >>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>> our own reservations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way >>>>>>>>> I can get approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way >>>>>>>>> it was >>>>>>>>> before it became WWRUG! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>>>>>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM >>>>>>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating >>>>>>>>> and giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> make travel arrangements than BMC. Let's just hope they don't >>>>>>>>> completely >>>>>>>>> miss the mark on this conference. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan < >>>>>>>>> david_...@brown.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that >>>>>>>>> lots of marketing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this even worth going to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> ___________________ >>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >>>>>>>>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note: This e-mail and any attachments may be privileged and >>>>>>>>> confidential and protected from disclosure. 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