I'm just going to attend a Service Now conference so I can get something technical out of it
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Brukeste G <[email protected]> wrote: > > ** > As a solution to the conference sales approach....why attend a conference > that's all salesy. > > Why would I pay $2000 plus, to go to a sales rally vs just asking remedy to > come to the office and demo their products? I know they will show ;) > > I hope they add technical back in....for developers it just makes sense. > > Thoughts? > >> On Jul 29, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ** >> Looks like they updated the session times to more reasonable values. Some >> of that may be time zone adjustment, but at least evenings now look free for >> networking and other activities. >> >> I know that not everyone is ready for the advanced stuff, and that we need >> sessions at all levels. But I see maybe 5-6 breakouts I would definitely >> attend. The rest are kinda meh... >> >> Rick >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> ** >>> err...that would be San Jose.... heh...still haven't had my full load of >>> coffee..... >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> First off, as to Claire's earlier comment, I am truly flattered..... >>>> >>>> I'm not sure why anyone would have thought this to be any different then >>>> it has ALWAYS been when BMC ran this thing. I still remember giving an >>>> ear full to some poor staffer in San Diego back in 2006 (I think) about >>>> how upset I was that it was nothing more then one long marketing tool for >>>> the ITSM suite.... At the time, all I did was development, and it was >>>> pretty darn evident that BMC no longer wished to sell the ARSystem as a >>>> development platform. >>>> >>>> I've not been able to get to many of these since I left the University of >>>> Washington (it is so much harder to convince a profit motivated manager of >>>> these things then a University manager!), and I had hoped to go to this, >>>> but now I'm not so sure.... Maybe I'm just better off finding a good >>>> class somewhere.... >>>> >>>> BMC, you really need to start listening to this group. They are some of >>>> your Remedy products biggest fans. We can can be a bit of handful >>>> sometimes, but we're worth it! Stop treating this as a way to just sell >>>> your products. We've already bought into that. Instead, think about how >>>> YOU can help US to better leverage these products. Do a better job in >>>> running this event. Perhaps give it to the education and engineering/R&D >>>> departments, and leave the sales staff at home! >>>> >>>> *sigh* >>>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tami Palacky <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> ** >>>>> too funny Jason!!! >>>>> >>>>> seems they are going back to how BMC used to run the conference. too bad >>>>> there is no more WWRUG. i guess the guys got burned out. :( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:57:42 PM UTC-4, Jason Miller wrote: >>>>>> ** >>>>>> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE. >>>>>> Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't >>>>>> have an impact. Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have >>>>>> an impact on the overlay. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. >>>>>>> We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe >>>>>>>> panel like, or small breakouts or something... >>>>>>>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for >>>>>>>> this... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not >>>>>>>> attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long >>>>>>>> time, we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or >>>>>>>> something? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" >>>>>>>> and whatever? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it >>>>>>>> (that could be a problem with BMC rules though). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. >>>>>>>>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still >>>>>>>>> going. Love networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys >>>>>>>>> if you decide to go. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed >>>>>>>>>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead >>>>>>>>>> Technical Marketing Consultant >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on >>>>>>>>>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 >>>>>>>>>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with >>>>>>>>>>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go? Will they even >>>>>>>>>>>> have them? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing >>>>>>>>>>>>> World. We haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to >>>>>>>>>>>>> just let it soak in for a day or two?.?.?. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few >>>>>>>>>>>>> presentations by customers. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just shaking my head… >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of laurent matheo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems the list is on now: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are certainly trusting Terry! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate. I can see it now… >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea what the content is. There is an early bird discount!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ME: Big Sigh… >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goodbye to that $75! Hehe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid for the conference with the understanding that I could >>>>>>>>>>>>>> de-register up to a certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, we'll see about that. :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terry >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference that we have no idea what the content is… There >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not be “early bird” pricing that expires before the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through their conference desk. We are adults. We should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to make our own reservations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I can get approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the way it was before it became WWRUG! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Miller >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and giving people the information they need to decide, get >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approvals and make travel arrangements than BMC. Let's just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope they don't completely miss the mark on this conference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots of marketing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this even worth going to? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note: This e-mail and any attachments may be privileged and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential and protected from disclosure. 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