[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:56:55 -0700

Mario,
  1. I'm not interested in "Red States", but the City of Asbury Park!
  2. If you're a Right Wing Tunnel Vision Person NOT willing to Change, or admit you even MIGHT be wrong, then YES, asking you to be Reasonable WOULD turn you Off!
I'm mostly concerned with People being Humane, which is NOT what the "Powers to be" are doing right at this Point!  Just do NOT expect Crime to Lessen here UNTIL Jobs, Affordable Housing and Rent Control are provided for here!  I don't do ANYTHING Illegal at All, but when People can't even house & feed their kids, I don't condemn them for trying whatever they're forced into!

Have a great life, buddy, wherever you live!

Steve





--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Steve,
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> Your reply: "Since your reply only attacked, yet had absolutely NO
> substance to it, does that mean you are in FAVOR of Attacking the Homeless by
> trying to prevent the ONLY real Shelter ever in Monmouth
> County from Opening, or Staying Open?"makes my point.
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> The substance is this: Your posts are too STRIDENT, read "SHRILL," to
> persuade most people. The rhetoric turns people off and results in too many "red
> states."
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> Moreover, "...does that mean you are in FAVOR of Attacking the Homeless"
> sounds like a non-sequitor Tucker Carlson would make.
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> "Card carrying..." when in quotes means figuratively, so please don't "beg
> my pardon."
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> Also don't lecture me on what I should do or not do to support liberal
> causes. You have neither the credentials nor the authority to cross-examine me.
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> Bottom Line: Your style hurts any liberal or progressive agenda I hope is
> still out there because it alienates people.
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> And as Andy Rooney would say, "If you don't agree, please DON'T email me."
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> ========Original Message========
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury Date: 7/22/2006
> 12:55:57 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> So, Mario,
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> Since your reply only attacked, yet had absolutely NO substance to it,
> does that mean you are in FAVOR of Attacking the Homeless by trying to prevent
> the ONLY real Shelter ever in Monmouth
> County from Opening, or Staying Open? This Shelter is geared towards single
> Men, most of whom are not allowed in the other "Shelters" in the County,
> what few there are!
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> Let me ask some questions, OK? You are a "Leftie", yet you support a Group
> that wants People to live, and eventually DIE on the Streets? HOW is that a
> "Left" or Democratic Stance?
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> Do you LIVE in Do you LI? For how Long? How affluent are You? Do you
> stand to Profit from the current course of the Redevelopment? Are you for Rent
> Control, if so, WHAT have you done to GET it (Councilman Keady has been
> pushing for it, with Virtually NO Public Support). If you are against Rent
> Control, then you have NO right even Claiming to be "Left"! Are you aware that
> since 2001, approximately 2,500 People (Minimum) have been either forced OUT of
> Asbury Park, or forced into Overcrowded Housing, due to a Combination of the
> Redevelopment, no Rent Control and NO Jobs being Created for them, as well as
> NO Affordable Housing being built for them?
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> Go to PolicyLink.org and read everything on Rent Control, then you may
> realize that it actually significantly firms UP the Economies of the Cities which
> have it over a 20-30 year Periodic, including guaranteeing a Stable and
> Regular Low Income Work Force FOR the Business Community. Do you know that? It's
> embedded in our 35 Year Go History already!
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> Now, let's get it straight, OK? You're FOR Stand Up For Asbury's stance to
> take away the LAST Alternative to living on the Street for at LEAST 75
> (Homeless) Residents of Asbury Park? And you're a "Leftie"? I beg to differ, but
> you at least SEEM to be a Plant for the Redevelopers!
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> And you said "As a "card-carrying member" of the ACLU, the Democratic
> Party, MoveOn.org, etc., I want to take issue with remarks made by "AsburySteve"
> in recent posts".
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> I beg your Pardon, Mario, but ANYONE can carry Cards in their Wallet to make
> believe they're something, but what have you DONE to help ANY Liberal
> Democratic Cause in the past 10-20 Years? By the way, MoveOn.org, NPR Radio and
> Air By the are just as "Radical" Left, or MORE than I am, and have made just
> as Liberal/Radical analogies as I ever have on here, yet DO You attack them?
> If SO, you don't even RESEMBLE any "Liberal" Thinking at ALL!
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> Finally, since I question your capability after your attack, just answer me
> one question:
> What is your Official PUBLIC Stance on:
> 1. Rent Control
> 2. Low Income Affordable Housing
> 3. Creating Living Wage Jobs and Increasing the Minimum Wage
> Implementing the above three Issues/ Programs/ Laws in Implementin would
> eliminate 97% of our Problems here, INCUDING the High Crime Rate, Homelessness
> and Poor Education (Over @ a ten year period)!
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> If you are against those Items, you're as "Right" as they come!
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> One last thing .... Try to DO something "Left", rather than to just TALK!
> I'll be glad to tell you what I've done over the past 10-25 Years!
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> Have a great day,
>
> Steve
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