On 10/12/12 22:32, Dan Allen wrote:
> The holder of the asciidoc organization on GitHub, Charbel Bitar,
> has graciously given us permission to use the organization for the
> AsciiDoc project. At the moment, Stuart and I have been made admins.
> Anyone else interested in helping to manage it, please speak up.

Thanks to Charbel (and Dan for facilitating).


> 
> Now that we have the space, it's time to decide what to do with it. I'll
> raise three uses. Feel free to suggest others.
> 
> AsciiDoc mirror on GitHub::
> 
> Regardless of where the canonical source code repository is located, I
> think there is tremendous benefit in having a mirror on GitHub. I've
> observed first hand how much visibility GitHub brings to a project. The
> obvious benefit is that you can say "find us on GitHub", which is a
> surprisingly powerful. It also makes it so easy to see the activity and
> history of a project, more so than any other web-based viewer I've ever
> come across. Finally, it provides a very elegant way to share patches
> (either through pull requests or just the "forks" themselves). That
> definitely beats sending patch files through a mailinglist. Do not
> underestimating the impact this can have.
> 
> I experimented with using hg-git to sync the mirror [1] and it
> works splendidly. One of us can setup a job on a CI server to sync
> regularly or via a commit trigger.
> 
> Shall I proceed with adding an AsciiDoc mirror under
> http://github.com/asciidoc?
> What should we call the mirror repository? asciidoc? asciidoc-mirror?
> 
> Keep in mind, those questions depend on...
> 
> AsciiDoc on GitHub::
> 
> Instead of a mirror, can we just switch to Git and make the one hosted
> at GitHub the canonical repository? I suppose this is really a question
> for Stuart to answer. Stuart, are you attached to hg or would you be
> open to using git instead? I've never seen a project that had less
> participation after moving to Git, so it seems like a risk-free choice.

Git is currently my version control system of choice (thanks in large
measure to Github, though I do have a real soft spot for Fossil). I only
use Hg for AsciiDoc and Blogpost on Google Code, all my other stuff is
on Github. So I don't have any specific attachment to Hg/Google Code, on
the other hand the current AsciiDoc repo is not broken and the work's
all been done.

There's also the question of control, at the moment I have complete
control, works for me and, AFAIK, for others -- but it's a legitimate
topic for discussion. So, to answer the question, mirroring on Github is
not something I'm opposed to provided someone else does all the leg work.


> 
> Community add-ons::
> 
> Should we offer to host community add-ons that are already well known
> under the asciidoc organization? (Repos that come to mind are those
> listed on the plugins page [2])
> 
> The organization already has the Maven plugin and it should remain there
> given that Charbel gave us access to use the organization.
> 
> To address the concern Lex raised in another thread, we could make it
> clear that being under the asciidoc organization doesn't mean the add-on
> is supported or stable, necessarily. For the time being, only those in
> the main AsciiDoc repository are expected to be production quality.
> Support is naturally understood to mean community support.
> 
> I look forward to hearing your responses and, if supportive of the idea,
> ready to activate the asciidoc organization on GitHub and keep the
> project growing!

We just need to be careful what we wish for: there is no intrinsic
relationship between "growth" and "good".


Cheers, Stuart

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Dan
> 
> [1] https://github.com/mojavelinux/asciidoc-mirror (temporary URL!)
> [2] http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/plugins.html
> 
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