On 10/12/12 23:22, Lex Trotman wrote:
> On 10 December 2012 20:32, Dan Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The holder of the asciidoc organization on GitHub, Charbel Bitar, has
> 
> Profuse thank you to him for that.
> 
> 
>> graciously given us permission to use the organization for the AsciiDoc
>> project. At the moment, Stuart and I have been made admins. Anyone else
>> interested in helping to manage it, please speak up.
>>
>> Now that we have the space, it's time to decide what to do with it. I'll
>> raise three uses. Feel free to suggest others.
>>
>> AsciiDoc mirror on GitHub::
>>
>> Regardless of where the canonical source code repository is located, I think
>> there is tremendous benefit in having a mirror on GitHub. I've observed
>> first hand how much visibility GitHub brings to a project. The obvious
>> benefit is that you can say "find us on GitHub", which is a surprisingly
>> powerful. It also makes it so easy to see the activity and history of a
>> project, more so than any other web-based viewer I've ever come across.
>> Finally, it provides a very elegant way to share patches (either through
>> pull requests or just the "forks" themselves). That definitely beats sending
>> patch files through a mailinglist. Do not underestimating the impact this
>> can have.
>>
>> I experimented with using hg-git to sync the mirror [1] and it works
>> splendidly. One of us can setup a job on a CI server to sync regularly or
>> via a commit trigger.
>>
> 
> I guess since this looks like a significant point of change, the
> question of how the asciidoc community is going to operate needs to be
> addressed.   Who manages it and how are decisions made?  Is Stuart
> BDFNow?  Does he have time?  Is it a democracy?  if so how does that
> work?  These issues need to be addressed *before* major changes are
> made and especially before any suggestions for incompatible changes
> (see my comment elsewhere).

Excellent questions Lex! At the moment it's probably a benign
dictatorship. I think your key point is worth reiterating viz ``These
issues need to be addressed *before* major changes are made...''

Cheers, Stuart


> 
>> Shall I proceed with adding an AsciiDoc mirror under
>> http://github.com/asciidoc?
>> What should we call the mirror repository? asciidoc? asciidoc-mirror?
>>
>> Keep in mind, those questions depend on...
>>
>> AsciiDoc on GitHub::
>>
>> Instead of a mirror, can we just switch to Git and make the one hosted at
>> GitHub the canonical repository? I suppose this is really a question for
>> Stuart to answer. Stuart, are you attached to hg or would you be open to
>> using git instead? I've never seen a project that had less participation
>> after moving to Git, so it seems like a risk-free choice.
> 
> That also depends on some of the answers to the questions above.
> 
>>
>> Community add-ons::
>>
>> Should we offer to host community add-ons that are already well known under
>> the asciidoc organization? (Repos that come to mind are those listed on the
>> plugins page [2])
>>
>> The organization already has the Maven plugin and it should remain there
>> given that Charbel gave us access to use the organization.
> 
> Agree.
> 
>>
>> To address the concern Lex raised in another thread, we could make it clear
>> that being under the asciidoc organization doesn't mean the add-on is
>> supported or stable, necessarily. For the time being, only those in the main
>> AsciiDoc repository are expected to be production quality. Support is
>> naturally understood to mean community support.
> 
> How do you suggest that this is made clear?
> 
> Cheers
> Lex
> 
>>
>> I look forward to hearing your responses and, if supportive of the idea,
>> ready to activate the asciidoc organization on GitHub and keep the project
>> growing!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/mojavelinux/asciidoc-mirror (temporary URL!)
>> [2] http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/plugins.html
>>
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