The Problem Statement is not yet forthcoming from anybody!!

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From:  Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  mayur bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject:  Re: [Assam] Begalis and MIT
Date:  Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:20:10 -0600
>Hi Mayur:
>
>Thanks for the reply.
>
>You gave your idea of a solution here, but WHAT is the problem?
>
>Unless you tell us what you see as the problems, how can anyone weigh
>if your solution concept addresses them?
>
>The reason I am asking is that your solution concept really did not
>address anything of any significance at all. But I am willing to
>accept that your concept of what the problems are is different from
>mine. Therefore it is important to have a glimpse of your version,
>wouldn't you agree? And once we do, we could weigh if your analysis
>is sound, to be persuaded to it or reject it.
>
> >  >You will also make a very good politician.
> >You know how to engineer a reply by tempting people.
>
>*** Even though you present it as a sly and deceitful quality, an
>ability to communicate and find common ground to solve common
>problems ought NOT to  be
>treated like you are doing. That is an unfortunate attitude, no doubt
>born of the pervasive desi-condition in which politicians remain
>forever unaccountable, leaving even otherwise intelligent folks, like
>yourself, with a sense of abject resignation.
>
>But it CAN be changed you know? May not be in India in the
>foreseeable future. But an Assam, freed from the shackles of the
>dysfunctional Indian system has every opportunity to be  rid of it.
>
>cm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 8:39 AM -0800 11/20/05, mayur bora wrote:
> >Dear Mahanta da
> >
> >You are not only an intelligent thinker and political
> >analyst. You will also make a very good politician.
> >You know how to engineer a reply by tempting people.
> >Of course I have taken it at the right spirit. Thank
> >you for your kind words.
> >
> >On a serious note, can any one be happy with dry bread
> >? But more importantly, in absence of any workable and
> >realistic solution, is it not in the larger interst of
> >the people to enjoy dry bread in stead of longing for
> >roast meat which is going to create havoc in many
> >people's lives ? I leave it to you to reflect and
> >ponder over ihe issue.
> >
> >Personally I feel a federal structure with centre
> >retaining defence, finance and external affairs and
> >rest of  the powers at state lavel can solve some
> >problems afflicting all the states of the country. Of
> >course it would be unwise to expect miracles overnight
> >from such an arrangement. Moreover, asymmetrical
> >federalism should not be a sacrilegious concept
> >keeping in mind the different background of the states
> >before coming together during independence. But if
> >this arrangement can not improve the condition after
> >say 10/20 years, all options should be made open viz,
> >reverting back to the earlier position, status quo or
> >a more radical arrangement. But it should be decided
> >by people after a prolonged and unrestricted debate.
> >Any well meaning and workable concept should be
> >allowed to be tested before coming to any firm
> >conclusion.
> >
> >I am not sure in today's complex world, slow and
> >steady wins the race or not, but it is safer for the
> >people. I don't want speed at cost of own people's
> >blood.
> >
> >Take care.
> >
> >Mayur
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>  At 7:34 PM -0800 11/18/05, mayur bora wrote:
> >>  >**** I don't like to give all my secrets out to the
> >>  >>  clueless,who are
> >>  >>  so  intentionally or otherwise
> >>  >
> >>  >HA HA HA....
> >>  >
> >>  >DRY BREAD AT HOME IS BETTER THAN ROAST MEAT ABROAD.
> >>  >
> >>  >Mayur
> >>
> >>
> >>  **** Hi Mayur:
> >>
> >>
> >>  I am sure that was very funny.
> >>
> >>  But let me ask you something: This 'dry bread at
> >>  home', are you happy  with it?
> >>
> >>  If not, why don't you like it?
> >>
> >>  And if you don't like it, what parts of it don't you
> >>  like?
> >>
> >>  For the parts, if not the whole, that you don't
> >>  like, what are  YOUR
> >>  recommendations on changing, turning things around?
> >>  (I presume you
> >>  would like to see things change.)
> >>
> >>  Finally, what would the process of such change that
> >>  you envision, one
> >>  which looks to you like an achievable process and
> >>  one which has
> >>  worked in the past?
> >>
> >>  Also, while you are at it, what did you think of the
> >>  Sentinel
> >>  editorial that responded to your question on how *I*
> >  > might lay
> >>  responsibilities at the Center's feet?
> >>
> >>  **** I am asking you all these, because you are more
> >>  articulate than
> >>  most, and are able to express a coherent thought.
> >>  You also are a
> >>  brave man, having gone on record that the Center is
> >>  'unfair' to Assam
> >>  :-). Let us hear about your thoughts. Hope you won't
> >>  disappoint.
> >>
> >>
> >>  cm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  >
> >>  >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >>  At 10:16 PM -0600 11/17/05, Barua25 wrote:
> >>  >>  >If you insist, my point is this. The so called
> >>  >>  'intellectual'
> >>  >>  >supporters of ULFA have no idea what they are
> >>  >>  talking about.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  **** I see.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >You failed to show any blue print for a better
> >>  >>  governance in
> >>  >>  >sovereign Assam, simply because you don't have
> >>  any.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  **** Um-hmm.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >You talk of a system where ALL will share
> >>  without
> >>  >>  knowing what
> >>  >>  >system you are talking.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  **** Really? Now I understand why you like what
> >>  is
> >>  >>  operative.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >Looks like we should better support the ULFA
> >>  who at
> >>  >>  least said that
> >>  >>  >they are not suppporting Communism.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  **** Is that a threat or a promise?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >  We are not so sure about the 'intellectual'
> >>  Gurus
> >>  >>  of ULFA though.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  **** Is that the only thing you think you are
> >>  >>  unaware of?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >You are talking about destroying the present
> >>  >>  system. Only if one
> >>  >>  >would have known what you would replace it
> >>  with.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  **** I don't like to give all my secrets out to
> >>  the
> >>  >>  clueless,who are
> >>  >>  so  intentionally or otherwise.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >That is my point.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  **** Okkkkay!
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  >RB
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >----- Original Message -----
> >>  >>  >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Chan Mahanta
> >>  >>  >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Rajen Barua ;
> >>  >>  ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
> >>  >>  >Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:56 AM
> >>  >>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] Begalis and MIT
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >What is your point Rajen?
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >Are you supporting the system in which a
> >>  segment of
> >>  >>  privileged
> >>  >>  >Assamese, flush in their earnings producing
> >>  >>  nothing, beneficiaries
> >>  >>  >of Indian kickbacks--or in plain
> >>  English--BRIBERY,
> >>  >>  as more important
> >>  >>  >for the people of Assam, than one in which ALL
> >>  of
> >>  >>  the people of
> >>  >>  >Assam could share in? And thus warning ULFA not
> >>  to
> >>  >>  SCARE AWAY this
> >>  >>  >privileged sector, which you obviously are a
> >>  >>  defender of?
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >Or are you attempting to pose as a CRITIC of
> >>  this
> >>  >>  system which
> >>  >>  >allows a small sector of Assam  to exploit the
> >>  rest
> >>  >>   'from one end',
> >>  >>  >while attacking ULFA or its supporters for
> >>  hoping
> >>  >>  to change it from
> >>  >>  >your 'other end'?
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >  >To try for Sovereign Assam is one thing, but
> >>  >>  telling people what
> >>  >>  >they are heading by exposing your goal, for is
> >>  >>  >another.
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >*** Oh, so you really COULD BE for sovereignty,
> >>  >>  except not to upset
> >>  >>  >the apple cart with changes to the system that
> >>  >>  enables a few to rip
> >>  >>  >off the rest?
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >Or are you continuing to trash around,
> >>  clueless,
> >>
> >=== message truncated ===
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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