>IMHO, this is NOT a win/lose game. Hindus are NOT in the
conversion game because most Hindus believe that one has to be born a Hindu.
They really don't care if someone >converts to Hinduism or not. My
understanding is that Hinduism is quite restrictive in that sense.
As pointed out in some other
earlier message, your understanding is not correct.
The Tai Ahoms in Assam, all the
Hindus in South East Asia, to say the least, were all converted to
Hindus. They were not BORN Hindus as you try to cliam.
And if you claim Buddhism as a
branch of Hindusim, then all the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Burmese, Thais,
Laosians, Vietnamis wer converted.
Even in India, all non Aryans
were were picked up and converted to Hindus en mass at one time or another,
and that is how Hinduism grew.
It was the big fish
eating the little fish.
The history of Hinduism
is very clear on this.
According to the last
email, you were supposed to check and respond.
Just reminding you that you owe the
net a response before you jump to repeat the same thing.
(At least Himenda is silent on
several issues where he could not respond.)
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:32
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion
law in Rajasthan?
Good oints Ram-dda,
I think the Supreme Court justices took the same view as you.
>The Hindus know that in the Conversion game, they will
loose >because they have nothing to show to these poor Muslims.That is
>sad but true.
IMHO, this is NOT a win/lose game. Hindus are NOT in the
conversion game because most Hindus believe that one has to be born a Hindu.
They really don't care if someone converts to Hinduism or not. My
understanding is that Hinduism is quite restrictive in that sense.
>because they have nothing to show to these poor
Muslims.
And what would you like Hinduism to show or promise new
converts? It will be interesting to find out what one "gets" by
converting.
>So Freedom of Religion without Freedom for Conversion
does not >make any sense.
While this is true, it is still difficult to uphold
some kinds of conversion like in forcible
conversions or by promising or enticing the unwary
with cash or other things in this earth, or 79 virgins in heaven.
About Freedom of Religion, let us extend this a
bit:
What if I think "my religion" requires me to advocate
against gay marriages or abortion. Will any restriction placed on my
practice curtail my Freeddom of Religion?
Just curious.
--Ram
On 4/9/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It (the Freedom to Convert) also goes for the
benefits of the Hindus. They can convert thousands or millions of poor
Muslims in every city in India, if they want to covert. The
only reason the Hindus oppose Conversion, in my mind, is that the
Hindus are not interested to convert these poor Muslims in India to
Hinduism and serve them, because they know that these Muslims are
enjoying a better life of equality being Muslim than being a
Hindu. The Hindus know that in the Conversion game, they will loose
because they have nothing to show to these poor Muslims.That is sad but
true.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:37
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] IE:
Anti-conversion law in Rajasthan?
Right to Freedom of Religion is intricately
connected to conversion. For me to change my religion, I must be
influenced by that religion and I will need somebody to formally accept
me in that religion. >From another angle that can be viewed as
conversion. So Freedom of Religion
without Freedom for Conversion does not make any sense.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006
2:30 PM
Subject: [Assam] IE:
Anti-conversion law in Rajasthan?
Please note that Supreme Court in India clarifiied last year that
there is definitely Right to Freedom of Religion but there is no Right
to convert others.The case had been filed by Christian missionaries
who want to convert members of other faiths - mostky Hindus but also
Muslims (in kashmir etc) , Sikhs (in Punjab, Chhatisgarh etc) and
Buddhists . The most famous Sikh to convert to Christianity -as per
reports - was the Sikh King - Dalip Singh who then settled in London-
while under British rule.
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Harvard Graduate School of
Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005
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