What about fraudulent conversion? --- Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mikeda, > > Another gem from the Oracle of Oxom :-) > > Rajib > > --- mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --------------------------------- > > Rajen Barua's lucid explanation of what never > happened-nor will- forced conversion. > > BJP OUGHT TO BE ASKED: > > "Shrimanji Hindimey Boliye" > > mm > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > From: umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ram > Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,AssamNet > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Assam] India protests over Pope > comments -BBC > Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 19:56:50 +0100 (BST) > > > Rajen-da wrote: > > *** And in my opinion telling people that there is > God is the biggest fraud of religion. > > I think you made your point amply clear. > > Umesh > > > Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >. Let us know how you feel about a Theocratic > leader - the Pope - trying to teach India about > secularism > > I think in this case, we are giving him the scope > to > teach, and that is why he is trying to teach. Why we > need to give that scope. > Religious conversion should be a freedom for > anybody - aspirin or not- period. > India is violating this fundamental human right. > > Tell me this. > Why we allow political conversion - by bribing, > cheating and false promises, and not religious > freedom?. > If religion is a way of social life, political > parties are also ways of our political life. > Why we allow free political conversion and not > religious conversion? > What exactly is the difference between religion > and > politics. > Don't tell me that religion involve with God. > Is Hinduism is not fraud when we tell people that > God created four castes? > Is that true? > What God has to do it? > And in my opinion telling people that there is God > is the biggest fraud of religion. > > > >Do you think India or any country for that matter > should send its ambassadors to a nation (Vatican) > whose sole purpose is to promote their faith - and > stop other >faiths from flourishing? > > This is another fraud India is doing. Why in the > hell India is sending an ambassador to Vatican at > all? > Who is telling India to send an ambassador at all? > India should > have the guts not to send any ambassador to Vatican. > Why India not sending an ambassador to Dalai Lama's > monastaery? > But that does not take the responsibility away > from > India to give freedom for free religious conversion > like political conversion. If we allow fraud in > politics, we better allow fraud in religion. > RB > ----- Original Message ----- > From: umesh sharma > To: Barua25 ; Ram Sarangapani ; AssamNet > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Assam] India protests over Pope > comments -BBC > > > Rajen-da, > > You always try to make politically correct > statements. Let us know how you feel about a > Theocratic leader - the Pope - trying to teach India > about secularism. > > Don't give us that we should take advice from > anyone > and everyone -as long it is good.Do you think India > or > any country for that matter should send its > ambassadors to a nation (Vatican) whose sole purpose > is to promote their faith - and stop other faiths > from > flourishing? > > Umesh > > Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >The BJP says that it supports legislation to > ban "forced religious conversions", because many > Christian >missionaries recruit converts among the > majority Hindu population using financial and > educational enticements. > I fail to understand what is called a "forced > religious conversion" specially by the Christians. > People can be persuaded, people can be bribed, but > people can be forced to convert? What is wrong in > Christians giving financial and educational > enticements? Why the Hindus cannot counter with > better > educational enticement? We discussed this before. I > think this ban on "forced conversion" by the Hindus > is > actually a ban on any "conversion". The Christians > never forced anybody for > conversion. That we have only 2% Christians in India > even though Christianity was here since 1 AD goes to > prove that. Every religion should have the freedom > to > convert others to his/her religion. > RB > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ram Sarangapani > To: AssamNet > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:32 PM > Subject: [Assam] India protests over Pope comments > -BBC > > > Quite > unsure why India is surprised. The Vatican has over > the centuries used force and enticements to convert > people of other faiths to Catholicism. That is how > the > religion has been able to sustain itself. > > The Vatican's lecture to India is both unwarranted > and 'holier than thou' - which it ain't > --Ram > "India is a secular and democratic country, in > which adherents of all religious faiths enjoy equal > rights," said Junior Foreign Minister Anand Sharma. > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5009238.stm > > India has summoned the Vatican envoy in Delhi in > protest over comments by the Pope in which he > condemned attempts to ban religious conversions. > India's junior Foreign Minister, Anand Sharma, told > parliament on Tuesday that the > envoy was told in "no uncertain terms" of India's > disapproval. The Pope criticised India last week > for > what he called "disturbing signs of religious > intolerance". India's main opposition party, the > BJP, > has already protested to the Vatican. 'Religious > intolerance' Pope Benedict XVI made the comments > last > week while talking to India's new Ambassador to the > Vatican, Amitava Tripathi. Religious > conversions are a controversial issue > > The pontiff criticised India for "disturbing signs > of religious intolerance which have troubled some > regions of India". He specifically > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
