On Saturday, January 24, 2015 06:57:18 PM Thomas Eckardt wrote:
> >But again without schedule cron module, there is no
> >automation of spam db rebuild as it seems.
> 
> Yes , you are right. The option to define only the runtime hour was
> removed some times ago from this configuration parameter - I'm sorry, I
> simply forgot this.
> The same applies to the Restart Scheduler !
> As I wrote in any of my last posts, both option are using the
> Schedule::Cron modules really.

So without that module, the spamdb is never rebuild unless done manually. Even 
if 
rebuild spamdb will be run/invoked from ASSP. I fail to see why it cannot still 
be 
invoked on its own outside of ASSP. I think that functionality should be added 
back as 
that is how it has been for a long time.

Then for anyone who wants they can install the schedule cron module and have 
ASSP 
deal with that internally if they so choose. Either way the option should be 
there.

Options are good, lack there of is NOT. Not to mention Unix rubber band ball 
philosophy, you make small programs that do single jobs well. Then you couple 
those 
with other programs. Thus combining functionality into a single program goes 
against 
that approach. It also makes finding bugs more difficult.

Am I experiencing an issue with ASSP or rebuilding spam db? Hard to say given 
they 
are both one. If I could rebuild the spam db outside of ASSP, then I could 
begin to start 
tracking down the issue. Or at least say its this or that, ASSP itself and/or 
the rebuild 
spam db process.
 
> Currently I'm the only one on this planet who knows simply everthing about
> assp, except the things, which nobody knows or the things I forgot :):)

Not sure how encouraging that is, given you said the schedule cron module was 
not 
required and it is. I would assume the developer to be aware of such trivial 
things. 
Then again I understand forgetting things just the same. I cannot recall every 
line of 
code I have written, why I wrote that, what it does, etc.

> from the lines 18 and 19 of assp.pl V2
> 
> # ASSP V2 pro development since 2.0.0 by
> # Thomas Eckardt
> 
> from the assp.pl V1
> 
> # ASSP V1 development since 1.9.9 14155 by Thomas Eckardt & John Calvi
> # ASSP V2 pro development since 2.0.0 by Thomas Eckardt
> 
> You don't believe me ? Than don't use assp.

I don't believe the system requirements you stated. I took you at your word 
about 
schedule cron not being required till it seemed otherwise. I am simply stating 
there 
are others who are familiar with ASSP as well. Developers are familiar with 
what they 
right, users are familiar with what they use. My clients routinely use software 
in ways I 
never intended, which can cause issues etc.

I am some what glad Fritz is no longer doing development, his QA was 
interesting to 
say the least. That said I have been around long enough to see the change of 
guard/developers for ASSP a few times. I have thought of getting involved, but 
I would 
port it to Java or C.

I might look into re-writing the rebuild spamdb in C. I would not do that in 
Java even if I 
re-wrote ASSP in Java. Given that it runs often, is resource consuming, etc. 
Its a prime 
candidate for a C application. Like the asspr application I wrote some time 
ago. Which I 
recently discovered has a pretty major bug causing seg faults if you run it on 
less than 
3 folders, discarded spam, and viruses. If 1 or 2 folders it seg faults, I need 
to fix that 
and issue a new release.

Perl might have made sense over a decade ago when ASSP was first written. Also 
likely used for rapid application development not long term performance, etc. 
It likely 
would have been best to be ported long ago. ASSP is one of if not the only 
server 
application I run that is not C or Java.

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.
Obsidian-Studios, Inc.
http://www.obsidian-studios.com

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