I have 2 older ones in the field, the APU4 is mine (quite new), all without issues:
DMI: PC Engines APU2/APU2, BIOS 4.0.7 02/28/2017 DMI: PC Engines APU2/APU2, BIOS 4.0.7 02/28/2017 DMI: PC Engines apu4/apu4, BIOS v4.11.0.2 12/30/2019e > Am 17.09.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>: > > My no-issue APU2's BIOS is somewhat older :-) > > # dmesg | grep DMI: > [ 0.000000] DMI: PC Engines apu2/apu2, BIOS 88a4f96 03/07/2016 > > Lonnie > > > >> On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Daryl Richards via Astlinux-users >> <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> >> I don't run PPPoE, just DHCP. I do have a few systems at client locations, >> also running APU2 and Astlinux 1.3.10, and either DHCP or static IP. None of >> them are having the problem. One used to run PPPoE and didn't crash then >> either but has since moved to static so can't test things there. >> >> I do like the question about BIOS though, as I do remember updating the BIOS >> on this system recently. I think I may have done this in response to the >> crashing but perhaps I'm mixing up the cause and effect on that.. My system >> here: >> >> DMI: PC Engines apu2/apu2, BIOS v4.12.0.3 07/30/2020 >> >> On 2020-09-16 8:29 p.m., Michael Knill wrote: >>> That's correct. >>> Regards >>> Michael Knill >>> On 17/9/20, 9:34 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: >>>> I have had EXACTLY the same problem on a Qotom box. >>> But no UPS, correct ? >>> Lonnie >>>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Michael Knill >>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi sorry all but this is not an APU problem. I have had EXACTLY the same >>>> problem on a Qotom box. >>>> >>>> At all three sites the common denominators are: >>>> -- Astlinux 1.3.7.1 >>>> -- PPPoE >>>> >>>> My next tests will be (in this order): >>>> 1) Install another system onsite connected to the same environment e.g. >>>> power to see if it happens to both systems >>>> 2) Put a firewall in front of the Astlinux box to do PPPoE >>>> 3) OS upgrade >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Michael Knill >>>> >>>> On 17/9/20, 8:12 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, this is very strange. >>>> >>>> I have had an APU2 for years, never locked-up once ... and it is >>>> currently running a UniFi controller in a Linux container. >>>> >>>> I also ran my APU2 without a UPS for a year or two, though it is using >>>> one now. But we have good quality power where I live outside of >>>> thunder-storms. >>>> >>>> Possibly the Coreboot BIOS version also needs to be tracked to find some >>>> common denominator. I have never updated my APU2 coreboot BIOS. >>>> >>>> Also my APU2 sits inside my network, without a public interface. >>>> >>>> A common denominator list for APU2 lock-up reports: >>>> >>>> -- AstLinux version: >>>> -- Asterisk: 13se, 13 or 16 >>>> -- RAM: 2GB or 4GB >>>> -- Coreboot BIOS version: >>>> -- Public interface yes/no, if 'yes' public SSH, HTTPS, etc. access >>>> yes/no >>>> -- PPPoE: yes/no >>>> -- UPS Power: yes/no >>>> >>>> >>>> Lonnie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 4:09 PM, Michael Knill >>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I do have Zabbix running on these boxes which checks memory and will >>>>> notify me if its getting too low and this has not happened. This is what >>>>> alerted me to the Zabbix client memory leak. >>>>> Also the lockups are very sporadic. Can happen after a couple of weeks or >>>>> the next day. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Michael Knill >>>>> >>>>> On 16/9/20, 11:21 pm, "Michael Keuter" <li...@mksolutions.info> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> it might be completely unrelated, but it reminds me at an issue that >>>>> only occured many years ago only on 32bit Geode boxes (Alix/net5501) >>>>> after we integrated Monit into AstLinux. >>>>> On these boxes all RAM was eaten up slowly and then these boxes locked >>>>> up after a few days. That's why we didn't installed Monit for these build >>>>> types. >>>>> >>>>> To figure it out I then created a cronjob that logged uptime, RAM and >>>>> used Asterisk channels into a logfile every 10 minutes. >>>>> >>>>>> Am 16.09.2020 um 15:07 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck >>>>>> <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Daryl, >>>>>> >>>>>> Has the AstLinux version changed in the last couple weeks ? >>>>>> >>>>>> What version are you running ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:01 AM, Daryl Richards via Astlinux-users >>>>>>> <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is good timing (in a bad way..) Time for a "Me too!" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Recently, over the last couple weeks my APU2 has started locking up >>>>>>> exactly the same way, just hard lock. I have a serial console cable >>>>>>> hooked up and there are no messages printed out before, there's just >>>>>>> nothing. When the problem first started I didn't have a console cable >>>>>>> hooked up but I put it in to see if any messages were appearing.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My system is on a UPS. Nothing else in the rack glitches. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2020-09-15 8:36 p.m., Michael Knill wrote: >>>>>>>> Thanks Chris >>>>>>>> Yep I have plenty out there too with no issues. It also happened on a >>>>>>>> Qotom box so not hardware related. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>> *From: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>> *Reply to: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 16 September 2020 at 8:53 am >>>>>>>> *To: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>> *Cc: *The Cadillac Kid <eldorado...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Astlinux-users] APU2 keeps locking up >>>>>>>> for whatever its worth.. from a hardware standpoint I have probably >>>>>>>> 200 APU2s in the field and dont have then just freeze like that.. >>>>>>>> granted they arent running astlinux, but just mentioning it from a >>>>>>>> power / hardware point of view. >>>>>>>> mine are all running Centos 6.X and asterisk 11 or 13 >>>>>>>> I have had a few chan_sip freezes.. (we wrote a watchdog to catch >>>>>>>> those and restart asterisk).. we get maybe 1 every 3 or 4 months .. >>>>>>>> (not each site but collectively) >>>>>>>> I have kenrel panicked an APU before by upping and downing the >>>>>>>> ethernet port too much (or so it seems).. it doesnt happen very often >>>>>>>> and is hard to repeat in the lab. but have done it esp on an >>>>>>>> install.. where one is prone to plug and unplug cables multiple times >>>>>>>> in succession for dressing in.. >>>>>>>> I have had a few power bricks go bad.. in all cases there was just no >>>>>>>> output.. no lights on the board at all. its not been that many 3 or >>>>>>>> 4.. considering we have sites in some pretty lightning-prone areas i >>>>>>>> dont feel too bad about a few power bricks. >>>>>>>> we run UPSs on all of our sites >>>>>>>> we run the US power supply that is sold on the PC-Engines store. >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 6:04:44 PM EDT, Michael Knill >>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> Yep I would say environmental for 1, maybe 2 sites but for 3 sites and >>>>>>>> all only recently I cant see how it could be. >>>>>>>> No serial or long ethernet cables are connected. >>>>>>>> Yes completely different power adaptors when I changed from APU2 -> >>>>>>>> Qotom. >>>>>>>> Yes they are all DSL however ALL different modems and service types. >>>>>>>> I'm thinking I will upgrade all Runnix versions at these sites and if >>>>>>>> still happening upgrade to 1.3.10 and if still happening then I have >>>>>>>> no idea what to do. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>> On 16/9/20, 7:36 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> So a UPS may solve the issue as with Site 1 ? >>>>>>>> Do you have any serial cables connected ? >>>>>>>> Any long ethernet cables connected ? >>>>>>>> Is this with a variety of power adapters ? ie. the APU2 -> Qotom >>>>>>>> switch did the power adapter change as well ? >>>>>>>> Sure sounds environmental to me. >>>>>>>> I've seen DC-to-DC UPSs for about $40 USD, but never tried one. >>>>>>>> https://protectli.com/product/uninterruptible-power-supply/ >>>>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Michael Knill >>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok I'm reviving this thread as I have now had my third site with this >>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Symptom: >>>>>>>>> Astlinux completely locks up and requires a power reset. The log >>>>>>>>> shows NOTHING in all cases. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Troubleshooting conducted: >>>>>>>>> Site 1 - The problem has not occurred since both a UPS AND Power >>>>>>>>> Filter have been added >>>>>>>>> Site 2 - A power filter has been added and the problem has >>>>>>>>> reoccurred. I have completely changed the system from an APU2 to >>>>>>>>> Qotom and it did the same thing again >>>>>>>>> Site 3 - A known working APU2 was installed and it locked up >>>>>>>>> yesterday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have checked mSATA cards and they were different across systems at >>>>>>>>> these sites. >>>>>>>>> All systems are running 1.3.7.1 but I am running this at many other >>>>>>>>> sites on the same hardware with no issues. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Power quality testing is extremely expensive and surely I cant be >>>>>>>>> having a power issue at 3 sites! >>>>>>>>> The whole thing just doesn't make any sense and I don't know where to >>>>>>>>> go from here. >>>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 22/4/20, 9:24 pm, "Michael Knill" >>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like this problem was bad power. I was told by the local IT Guy >>>>>>>>> that there are regular brownouts so I installed a UPS. No more >>>>>>>>> problems since doing so. >>>>>>>>> Seems like APU's don't like low voltage scenarios. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13/4/20, 1:05 pm, "Michael Knill" >>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes could be but very unusual. I have never had this problem with >>>>>>>>> any other APU. >>>>>>>>> Maybe I will look for a good surge suppressor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13/4/20, 12:47 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Interesting, maybe bad power (spikes, noise, etc.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Test with a UPS attached or good surge suppresser. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Lonnie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have replaced the hardware already and it did EXACTLY the same >>>>>>>>>> thing ☹ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/4/20, 12:15 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> May not have anything to do with Astlinux but I have a site which >>>>>>>>>>> completely locks up e.g. cannot even communicate using serial port. >>>>>>>>>>> On reboot its fine but there is nothing in the logs but the bootup >>>>>>>>>>> messages. >>>>>>>>>>> So far I have replaced the hardware with new storage as well and >>>>>>>>>>> power supply and it is still doing it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is currently running Astlinux 1.3.7.1 which has been running >>>>>>>>>>> fine on another APU2 but its only been 8 days. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas what I can do next? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sounds like an APU2 hardware issue. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe Pascal will give you a replacement. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>>>>>> Michael http://www.mksolutions.info _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pay...@krisk.org.
