BTW: 4.0.7 is the latest BIOS for the APU2 https://www.pcengines.ch/apu2e4.htm
> Am 17.09.2020 um 16:33 schrieb Michael Keuter <li...@mksolutions.info>: > > I have 2 older ones in the field, the APU4 is mine (quite new), all without > issues: > > DMI: PC Engines APU2/APU2, BIOS 4.0.7 02/28/2017 > DMI: PC Engines APU2/APU2, BIOS 4.0.7 02/28/2017 > DMI: PC Engines apu4/apu4, BIOS v4.11.0.2 12/30/2019e > >> Am 17.09.2020 um 14:53 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>: >> >> My no-issue APU2's BIOS is somewhat older :-) >> >> # dmesg | grep DMI: >> [ 0.000000] DMI: PC Engines apu2/apu2, BIOS 88a4f96 03/07/2016 >> >> Lonnie >> >> >> >>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Daryl Richards via Astlinux-users >>> <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >>> >>> I don't run PPPoE, just DHCP. I do have a few systems at client locations, >>> also running APU2 and Astlinux 1.3.10, and either DHCP or static IP. None >>> of them are having the problem. One used to run PPPoE and didn't crash then >>> either but has since moved to static so can't test things there. >>> >>> I do like the question about BIOS though, as I do remember updating the >>> BIOS on this system recently. I think I may have done this in response to >>> the crashing but perhaps I'm mixing up the cause and effect on that.. My >>> system here: >>> >>> DMI: PC Engines apu2/apu2, BIOS v4.12.0.3 07/30/2020 >>> >>> On 2020-09-16 8:29 p.m., Michael Knill wrote: >>>> That's correct. >>>> Regards >>>> Michael Knill >>>> On 17/9/20, 9:34 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: >>>>> I have had EXACTLY the same problem on a Qotom box. >>>> But no UPS, correct ? >>>> Lonnie >>>>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Michael Knill >>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi sorry all but this is not an APU problem. I have had EXACTLY the same >>>>> problem on a Qotom box. >>>>> >>>>> At all three sites the common denominators are: >>>>> -- Astlinux 1.3.7.1 >>>>> -- PPPoE >>>>> >>>>> My next tests will be (in this order): >>>>> 1) Install another system onsite connected to the same environment e.g. >>>>> power to see if it happens to both systems >>>>> 2) Put a firewall in front of the Astlinux box to do PPPoE >>>>> 3) OS upgrade >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Michael Knill >>>>> >>>>> On 17/9/20, 8:12 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, this is very strange. >>>>> >>>>> I have had an APU2 for years, never locked-up once ... and it is >>>>> currently running a UniFi controller in a Linux container. >>>>> >>>>> I also ran my APU2 without a UPS for a year or two, though it is using >>>>> one now. But we have good quality power where I live outside of >>>>> thunder-storms. >>>>> >>>>> Possibly the Coreboot BIOS version also needs to be tracked to find some >>>>> common denominator. I have never updated my APU2 coreboot BIOS. >>>>> >>>>> Also my APU2 sits inside my network, without a public interface. >>>>> >>>>> A common denominator list for APU2 lock-up reports: >>>>> >>>>> -- AstLinux version: >>>>> -- Asterisk: 13se, 13 or 16 >>>>> -- RAM: 2GB or 4GB >>>>> -- Coreboot BIOS version: >>>>> -- Public interface yes/no, if 'yes' public SSH, HTTPS, etc. access >>>>> yes/no >>>>> -- PPPoE: yes/no >>>>> -- UPS Power: yes/no >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lonnie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 4:09 PM, Michael Knill >>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I do have Zabbix running on these boxes which checks memory and will >>>>>> notify me if its getting too low and this has not happened. This is what >>>>>> alerted me to the Zabbix client memory leak. >>>>>> Also the lockups are very sporadic. Can happen after a couple of weeks >>>>>> or the next day. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16/9/20, 11:21 pm, "Michael Keuter" <li...@mksolutions.info> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> it might be completely unrelated, but it reminds me at an issue that >>>>>> only occured many years ago only on 32bit Geode boxes (Alix/net5501) >>>>>> after we integrated Monit into AstLinux. >>>>>> On these boxes all RAM was eaten up slowly and then these boxes locked >>>>>> up after a few days. That's why we didn't installed Monit for these >>>>>> build types. >>>>>> >>>>>> To figure it out I then created a cronjob that logged uptime, RAM and >>>>>> used Asterisk channels into a logfile every 10 minutes. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 16.09.2020 um 15:07 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck >>>>>>> <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Daryl, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has the AstLinux version changed in the last couple weeks ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What version are you running ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:01 AM, Daryl Richards via Astlinux-users >>>>>>>> <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is good timing (in a bad way..) Time for a "Me too!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Recently, over the last couple weeks my APU2 has started locking up >>>>>>>> exactly the same way, just hard lock. I have a serial console cable >>>>>>>> hooked up and there are no messages printed out before, there's just >>>>>>>> nothing. When the problem first started I didn't have a console cable >>>>>>>> hooked up but I put it in to see if any messages were appearing.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My system is on a UPS. Nothing else in the rack glitches. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2020-09-15 8:36 p.m., Michael Knill wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks Chris >>>>>>>>> Yep I have plenty out there too with no issues. It also happened on a >>>>>>>>> Qotom box so not hardware related. >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>> *From: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>>> *Reply to: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 16 September 2020 at 8:53 am >>>>>>>>> *To: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>>>>> *Cc: *The Cadillac Kid <eldorado...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Astlinux-users] APU2 keeps locking up >>>>>>>>> for whatever its worth.. from a hardware standpoint I have probably >>>>>>>>> 200 APU2s in the field and dont have then just freeze like that.. >>>>>>>>> granted they arent running astlinux, but just mentioning it from a >>>>>>>>> power / hardware point of view. >>>>>>>>> mine are all running Centos 6.X and asterisk 11 or 13 >>>>>>>>> I have had a few chan_sip freezes.. (we wrote a watchdog to catch >>>>>>>>> those and restart asterisk).. we get maybe 1 every 3 or 4 months .. >>>>>>>>> (not each site but collectively) >>>>>>>>> I have kenrel panicked an APU before by upping and downing the >>>>>>>>> ethernet port too much (or so it seems).. it doesnt happen very >>>>>>>>> often and is hard to repeat in the lab. but have done it esp on an >>>>>>>>> install.. where one is prone to plug and unplug cables multiple >>>>>>>>> times in succession for dressing in.. >>>>>>>>> I have had a few power bricks go bad.. in all cases there was just no >>>>>>>>> output.. no lights on the board at all. its not been that many 3 or >>>>>>>>> 4.. considering we have sites in some pretty lightning-prone areas i >>>>>>>>> dont feel too bad about a few power bricks. >>>>>>>>> we run UPSs on all of our sites >>>>>>>>> we run the US power supply that is sold on the PC-Engines store. >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 6:04:44 PM EDT, Michael Knill >>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Yep I would say environmental for 1, maybe 2 sites but for 3 sites >>>>>>>>> and all only recently I cant see how it could be. >>>>>>>>> No serial or long ethernet cables are connected. >>>>>>>>> Yes completely different power adaptors when I changed from APU2 -> >>>>>>>>> Qotom. >>>>>>>>> Yes they are all DSL however ALL different modems and service types. >>>>>>>>> I'm thinking I will upgrade all Runnix versions at these sites and if >>>>>>>>> still happening upgrade to 1.3.10 and if still happening then I have >>>>>>>>> no idea what to do. >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>> On 16/9/20, 7:36 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> So a UPS may solve the issue as with Site 1 ? >>>>>>>>> Do you have any serial cables connected ? >>>>>>>>> Any long ethernet cables connected ? >>>>>>>>> Is this with a variety of power adapters ? ie. the APU2 -> Qotom >>>>>>>>> switch did the power adapter change as well ? >>>>>>>>> Sure sounds environmental to me. >>>>>>>>> I've seen DC-to-DC UPSs for about $40 USD, but never tried one. >>>>>>>>> https://protectli.com/product/uninterruptible-power-supply/ >>>>>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ok I'm reviving this thread as I have now had my third site with >>>>>>>>>> this issue. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Symptom: >>>>>>>>>> Astlinux completely locks up and requires a power reset. The log >>>>>>>>>> shows NOTHING in all cases. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Troubleshooting conducted: >>>>>>>>>> Site 1 - The problem has not occurred since both a UPS AND Power >>>>>>>>>> Filter have been added >>>>>>>>>> Site 2 - A power filter has been added and the problem has >>>>>>>>>> reoccurred. I have completely changed the system from an APU2 to >>>>>>>>>> Qotom and it did the same thing again >>>>>>>>>> Site 3 - A known working APU2 was installed and it locked up >>>>>>>>>> yesterday. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have checked mSATA cards and they were different across systems at >>>>>>>>>> these sites. >>>>>>>>>> All systems are running 1.3.7.1 but I am running this at many other >>>>>>>>>> sites on the same hardware with no issues. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Power quality testing is extremely expensive and surely I cant be >>>>>>>>>> having a power issue at 3 sites! >>>>>>>>>> The whole thing just doesn't make any sense and I don't know where >>>>>>>>>> to go from here. >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 22/4/20, 9:24 pm, "Michael Knill" >>>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like this problem was bad power. I was told by the local IT >>>>>>>>>> Guy that there are regular brownouts so I installed a UPS. No more >>>>>>>>>> problems since doing so. >>>>>>>>>> Seems like APU's don't like low voltage scenarios. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/4/20, 1:05 pm, "Michael Knill" >>>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes could be but very unusual. I have never had this problem with >>>>>>>>>> any other APU. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe I will look for a good surge suppressor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13/4/20, 12:47 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Interesting, maybe bad power (spikes, noise, etc.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Test with a UPS attached or good surge suppresser. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lonnie >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have replaced the hardware already and it did EXACTLY the same >>>>>>>>>>> thing ☹ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13/4/20, 12:15 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> May not have anything to do with Astlinux but I have a site which >>>>>>>>>>>> completely locks up e.g. cannot even communicate using serial port. >>>>>>>>>>>> On reboot its fine but there is nothing in the logs but the bootup >>>>>>>>>>>> messages. >>>>>>>>>>>> So far I have replaced the hardware with new storage as well and >>>>>>>>>>>> power supply and it is still doing it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is currently running Astlinux 1.3.7.1 which has been running >>>>>>>>>>>> fine on another APU2 but its only been 8 days. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas what I can do next? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Knill >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like an APU2 hardware issue. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe Pascal will give you a replacement. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lonnie >>>>>>>>>>> > > Michael > > http://www.mksolutions.info > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Astlinux-users mailing list > Astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users > > Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to > pay...@krisk.org. 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