Yes, this is very strange.

I have had an APU2 for years, never locked-up once ... and it is currently 
running a UniFi controller in a Linux container.

I also ran my APU2 without a UPS for a year or two, though it is using one now. 
 But we have good quality power where I live outside of thunder-storms.

Possibly the Coreboot BIOS version also needs to be tracked to find some common 
denominator.  I have never updated my APU2 coreboot BIOS.

Also my APU2 sits inside my network, without a public interface.

A common denominator list for APU2 lock-up reports:

-- AstLinux version: 
-- Asterisk: 13se, 13 or 16
-- RAM: 2GB or 4GB
-- Coreboot BIOS version: 
-- Public interface yes/no, if 'yes' public SSH, HTTPS, etc. access yes/no
-- PPPoE: yes/no
-- UPS Power: yes/no


Lonnie




> On Sep 16, 2020, at 4:09 PM, Michael Knill 
> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I do have Zabbix running on these boxes which checks memory and will notify 
> me if its getting too low and this has not happened. This is what alerted me 
> to the Zabbix client memory leak.
> Also the lockups are very sporadic. Can happen after a couple of weeks or the 
> next day.
> 
> Regards
> Michael Knill
> 
> On 16/9/20, 11:21 pm, "Michael Keuter" <li...@mksolutions.info> wrote:
> 
>    Hi all,
> 
>    it might be completely unrelated, but it reminds me at an issue that only 
> occured many years ago only on 32bit Geode boxes (Alix/net5501) after we 
> integrated Monit into AstLinux.
>    On these boxes all RAM was eaten up slowly and then these boxes locked up 
> after a few days. That's why we didn't installed Monit for these build types.
> 
>    To figure it out I then created a cronjob that logged uptime, RAM and used 
> Asterisk channels into a logfile every 10 minutes.
> 
>> Am 16.09.2020 um 15:07 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>:
>> 
>> Hi Daryl,
>> 
>> Has the AstLinux version changed in the last couple weeks ?
>> 
>> What version are you running ?
>> 
>> Lonnie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:01 AM, Daryl Richards via Astlinux-users 
>>> <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is good timing (in a bad way..) Time for a "Me too!"
>>> 
>>> Recently, over the last couple weeks my APU2 has started locking up exactly 
>>> the same way, just hard lock. I have a serial console cable hooked up and 
>>> there are no messages printed out before, there's just nothing. When the 
>>> problem first started I didn't have a console cable hooked up but I put it 
>>> in to see if any messages were appearing..
>>> 
>>> My system is on a UPS. Nothing else in the rack glitches.
>>> 
>>> On 2020-09-15 8:36 p.m., Michael Knill wrote:
>>>> Thanks Chris
>>>> Yep I have plenty out there too with no issues. It also happened on a 
>>>> Qotom box so not hardware related.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Michael Knill
>>>> *From: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>> *Reply to: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 16 September 2020 at 8:53 am
>>>> *To: *AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>> *Cc: *The Cadillac Kid <eldorado...@yahoo.com>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Astlinux-users] APU2 keeps locking up
>>>> for whatever its worth..  from a hardware standpoint I have probably 200 
>>>> APU2s in the field and dont have then just freeze like that..  granted 
>>>> they arent running astlinux, but just mentioning it from a power / 
>>>> hardware point of view.
>>>> mine are all running Centos 6.X and asterisk 11 or 13
>>>> I have had a few chan_sip freezes.. (we wrote a watchdog to catch those 
>>>> and restart asterisk).. we get maybe 1 every 3 or 4 months .. (not each 
>>>> site but collectively)
>>>> I have kenrel panicked an APU before by upping and downing the ethernet 
>>>> port too much (or so it seems)..  it doesnt happen very often and is hard 
>>>> to repeat in the lab.  but have done it esp on an install..  where one is 
>>>> prone to plug and unplug cables multiple times in succession for dressing 
>>>> in..
>>>> I have had a few power bricks go bad.. in all cases there was just no 
>>>> output..  no lights on the board at all. its not been that many 3 or 4..  
>>>> considering we have sites in some pretty lightning-prone areas i dont feel 
>>>> too bad about a few power bricks.
>>>> we run UPSs on all of our sites
>>>> we run the US power supply that is sold on the PC-Engines store.
>>>> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 6:04:44 PM EDT, Michael Knill 
>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Yep I would say environmental for 1, maybe 2 sites but for 3 sites and all 
>>>> only recently I cant see how it could be.
>>>> No serial or long ethernet cables are connected.
>>>> Yes completely different power adaptors when I changed from APU2 -> Qotom.
>>>> Yes they are all DSL however ALL different modems and service types.
>>>> I'm thinking I will upgrade all Runnix versions at these sites and if 
>>>> still happening upgrade to 1.3.10 and if still happening then I have no 
>>>> idea what to do.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Michael Knill
>>>> On 16/9/20, 7:36 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com 
>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote:
>>>>   So a UPS may solve the issue as with Site 1 ?
>>>>   Do you have any serial cables connected ?
>>>>   Any long ethernet cables connected ?
>>>>   Is this with a variety of power adapters ?  ie. the APU2 -> Qotom switch 
>>>> did the power adapter change as well ?
>>>>   Sure sounds environmental to me.
>>>>   I've seen DC-to-DC UPSs for about $40 USD, but never tried one.
>>>> https://protectli.com/product/uninterruptible-power-supply/
>>>>   Lonnie
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok I'm reviving this thread as I have now had my third site with this 
>>>>> issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Symptom:
>>>>> Astlinux completely locks up and requires a power reset. The log shows 
>>>>> NOTHING in all cases.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Troubleshooting conducted:
>>>>> Site 1 - The problem has not occurred since both a UPS AND Power Filter 
>>>>> have been added
>>>>> Site 2 - A power filter has been added and the problem has reoccurred. I 
>>>>> have completely changed the system from an APU2 to Qotom and it did the 
>>>>> same thing again
>>>>> Site 3 - A known working APU2 was installed and it locked up yesterday.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have checked mSATA cards and they were different across systems at 
>>>>> these sites.
>>>>> All systems are running 1.3.7.1 but I am running this at many other sites 
>>>>> on the same hardware with no issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Power quality testing is extremely expensive and surely I cant be having 
>>>>> a power issue at 3 sites!
>>>>> The whole thing just doesn't make any sense and I don't know where to go 
>>>>> from here.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Michael Knill
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/4/20, 9:24 pm, "Michael Knill" 
>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Looks like this problem was bad power. I was told by the local IT Guy 
>>>>> that there are regular brownouts so I installed a UPS. No more problems 
>>>>> since doing so.
>>>>>  Seems like APU's don't like low voltage scenarios.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Thanks for your help.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Regards
>>>>>  Michael Knill
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On 13/4/20, 1:05 pm, "Michael Knill" 
>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Yes could be but very unusual. I have never had this problem with 
>>>>> any other APU.
>>>>>      Maybe I will look for a good surge suppressor.
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Regards
>>>>>      Michael Knill
>>>>> 
>>>>>      On 13/4/20, 12:47 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com 
>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>          Interesting, maybe bad power (spikes, noise, etc.)
>>>>> 
>>>>>          Test with a UPS attached or good surge suppresser.
>>>>> 
>>>>>          Lonnie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Lonnie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have replaced the hardware already and it did EXACTLY the same thing ☹
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Michael Knill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13/4/20, 12:15 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Michael Knill 
>>>>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> May not have anything to do with Astlinux but I have a site which 
>>>>>>> completely locks up e.g. cannot even communicate using serial port.
>>>>>>> On reboot its fine but there is nothing in the logs but the bootup 
>>>>>>> messages.
>>>>>>> So far I have replaced the hardware with new storage as well and power 
>>>>>>> supply and it is still doing it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is currently running Astlinux 1.3.7.1 which has been running fine on 
>>>>>>> another APU2 but its only been 8 days.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any ideas what I can do next?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Michael Knill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sounds like an APU2 hardware issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe Pascal will give you a replacement.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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