still being a silly man
> On 31 Jan 2017, at 6:57 PM, Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> wrote: > > This list has been going for 20 years or so IIRC. > > List servers are great, much better than websites. BD-4 owners, builders and > would be builders have one too and it is fantastically useful. > > Yes, the same problems have been pointed out for 20 years and still those > running the GFA exhort members to try harder to get new members and it still > doesn't work. Einstein once defined insanity as "doing the same thing over > and over and expecting a different result". > I left high school 51 years ago. My feeling at the time was the same as > Martin Luther King " free, free at last, thank God I'm free at last". The GFA > treats responsible adults like high school students and wonders why they > don't like it. > They are fools who are destroying this great activity. > > Mike > > > >> On 31 Jan 2017, at 3:35 PM, Erich Wittstock <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> nope, we haven't :-) >> "The Facebook website was launched on February 4, 2004" (and the internet >> never lies) >> >> GFA only created a mailing list in May 2015. >> By the way, when was this aus-soaring list started? And was it Simon who did >> it? >> Can't recall when I joined the list - 'tis been almost 10 years ago. >> I started gliding 30 years ago. >> >> Let me re-phrase then: >> Without the initial comment on facebook we would have never had a discussion >> like this or re-opened a discussion so easily. The list server allows >> sharing of ideas - easily. >> It's not just a brainstorm session - it's a brainmonsoon. It is seasonal and >> facets will reappear from time to time. >> >> I don't know if I would have ever heard all the ideas that have been thrown >> around without subscribing to this list. >> I bet that one outcome is that some people are contacted off-list because of >> their ideas / experiences. >> >> The cycle of ongoing improvement. If we do not question, we will never have >> to change. >> If we do not change / adapt - we will go extinct. (note: meteor strikes are >> not covered in this policy until interplanetary travel is possible) >> >> There is something like on-line etiquette. >> Even some people in high political positions don't know or choose to ignore >> the rulz of on-line etiquette. >> (some bullies don't like being bullied?) >> Again: I missed the facebook comment. Maybe there was some truth in that >> comment. Just the packaging was most likely non-recyclable - in other words: >> maybe politically incorrect. >> Typing an e-mail is different to a face-to-face conversation. I am not sure >> if "that comment" would have been made face-to-face. Maybe it was not meant >> to offend the way it did. Electronic media is a strange thing. >> Facebook is more public in comparison to this list. Maybe a moderator could >> have just been contacted. >> This list had a bit of a shake-up not long ago and the tone has definitely >> changed. >> >> OK, here is a direct attack: In my view, the good people in the GFA are >> doing a fine job. Every member of the GFA is included in that attack - so >> feel offended! (bummer, even in electronic media not everyone can read >> between the lines) >> >> And here is a challenge: Anyone making a comment here should be prepared to >> put the required effort and action behind their suggestions. >> We are not in a position where we can just delegate by stating a sentence. >> That goes right down to the "lowest level". >> "you should be doing this" - heard that one before? >> I charge $11 / hour (that's inclusive of GST) to listen to good advise - a >> real bargain. Some people are even too stingy to pay this little fee. >> >> Here is one from way back: "ask not what a club can do for you; ask what..." >> you know the rest.. >> Constructive suggestion: >> When was the last time you thanked your club for supporting your special >> interest for running a comp, weekend operation etc. >> When was the last time you were a duty pilot or pushed a club glider? >> Disclaimer: If you are a tow pilot and actually do full days of towing: you >> fall under the rare species category and are naturally exempt from having to >> do anything else! We do look after minority groups! >> You can plan ahead to be a duty pilot (I know that's the unthinkable! But >> some survived this time in their life and come back for more.) >> You can plan to bring a non-aviation infected person along and let them get >> a feel for what we are doing. >> A flight line can be as interesting and exiting as a carrier operation. You >> have the chance to do some explaining (and bragging) whilst being a duty >> pilot. That is more important than just prancing.. Maybe you get them >> hooked. You'd be their mentor if they are thinking of starting. >> Gliding is not for everyone. But it is for some. >> Erich >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Mark Newton <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 4:28 PM, Erich Wittstock <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Without the initial comment on facebook we would have never had a >>> > discussion like this. >>> >>> We’ve been having discussions like this for 20 years. >>> >>> - mark >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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