At 11:14 AM 1/17/2019, you wrote:


This results in them feeling like "the tail is being pushed up" as they pull back. If you are turning and the thermal is strong and you are too keen to maintain the attitude you can stall the wing(s), spin and try to kill yourself.

Really, and how often does that happen….must be trained otherwise then...



Try the accident with the ASG29 at Waikerie a couple of years ago as a candidate. Nobody I've talked to has seen an investigation report. Doesn't mean there isn't one. Also doesn't necessarily mean they came to valid conclusions.


The dynamically and statically lighter the tail is, the faster it will rise (it rises in response to the change of angle of attack caused by the rising air). The faster is rises the easier it is to feel.

A nose heavy CG slows the ‘rise’ response making it harder to feel the lift, this is most prominent when seeking bubbles and lines than big thermals.


Wrong way around. Forward C of G makes the glider more statically stable.

exactly what I said, a fwd CG means more positive force being applied on the tailplane (creating strong stability and resistance to external forces) and making the stick force required to change the A0A greater (giving the glider that heavy feel)

A rearward CG makes the controls lighter (which you can easily feel if the CG is back with the controls being lighter and more sensitive) and as such the dynamic forces in place are less, so when the plane goes into rising air the stabilising setup will renormalise the AoA by raising the tail more quickly than if it has a forward CG…ie less signalling to the pilot


You actually said (and quoted yourself) "A nose heavy CG slows the ‘rise’ response making it harder to feel the lift, this is most prominent when seeking bubbles and lines than big thermals."
The opposite of what you now claim. You are confused.
Run the C of G far enough back and the static stability will be zero. The glider will then not try to change attitude when encountering rising or sinking air.


A good question to ask is why have tailplanes got smaller and booms lighter and smaller. Easily seen by anything new from the factory of recent design


When there is less of it there is less wetted area and less drag. Horizontal tails can be small on properly designed flapped gliders as there may not be much lift force being generated unless changing attitude, if optimum flap settings are used. The last competitive Standard Class glider to be designed was the Discus 2. We won't count the ASW 28. Will anyone try to design, test and market another?

Mike






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