Yes, we have at Lake Keepit. The turnpoint list for the Lake Keepit comps in
November (from 15th - 22nd) has been updated.

Macca you'll be pleased to learn that elevations have been included for all
landing points.

All landing points within 120 odd km of Lake Keepit have now been either
ground verified, checked with owners or we've flown over (in a Grob) down
low, so elevations are accurate to within 100ft or so.

Coordinates have also been accurately pin pointed as near as dammit to the
centre of each strip.

I must say Macca's suggestion of getting elevations with the RAAF  Digital
Elevation Terrain Data system sounds a lot easier.

It was a very worthwhile exercise as we noted a few former strips now under
crops, but found others we'd been doubtful about. There are some very nice
substantial airfields. And there are others only just faintly
distinguishable with all the new growth in the district (countryside looks a
picture).

A text file (openable in Word) is attached and will be available from the
Keepit website shortly. http://www.users.bigpond.com/keepitsoaring/

Alternatively, downloadable files for various GPS formats can be obtained
from John Leibacher's Soaring Turnpoint Exchange website.
http://acro.harvard.edu/SOARING/JL/TP/NSW03
(Thanks to John for a great service provided to the worldwide gliding
movement).

Regarding Macca's comment on naming of landing points, we've adopted a local
name (Rangiri, Gaineys etc) for those strips that have a common name, and
added comments like R/W direction or hazards in the description field, which
will show up on a Garmin or Cambridge GPS description field display.  (Other
GPSs may also load this field). So pilots searching for one of these fields
can seek extra information by calling up the display page for that
datapoint.

For other landing fields without a commonly acknowledged name, we've used a
naming code which distinguishes between
 - quality fields (AF) which look like they're regularly maintained,
generally with a windsock and hangar;
 - and questionable strips, like temporary farm ag strips (AG).
+ a catelogue number
+ runway direction (NS, NE etc or XS for cross strip).
So AG59NW would be an ag strip running NW/SE, catelogue number 59 in our
reference folder. (The reference folder contains photos, runway
descriptions, hazard notes, owner names & phone numbers etc)

Up till now I've shared Macca's reservations about a coded naming system,
but I must say that having the runway direction defined by the name helped
enormously in identifying the fields when we were searching for them in the
Grob. Some are very difficult to find until you're almost right on top of
them, and knowing what you're looking for helped a lot. And this is what the
real life situation is going to be like when you're desperate to find a
landing spot.

We've also taken the decision to eliminate redundant turnpoints, such as
silos, rail crossings, pubs etc where nearby airfields exist. As much as
possible we've used airfields as turnpoints. So Barraba airport, not Barraba
silo, Mullaley airfield not the pub.

For this comp our list has a total of 96 points - 73 of which are landable
and 41 of which are control points (start, turn and finish points). 12 are
startpoints, all separated by a minimum 5km, to ensure safe starting
conditions.

Dave Shorter
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (note no ".au" in address)
11 Lighthouse Crescent,
Emerald Beach,
NSW 2456,   Australia
Phone (02) 6656 1979
Fax  (02) 6656 2983
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian McPhee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Has anyone coordinated/updated GPS data recently?


> Turnpoints/landing places
> It would be great if people responsible for their local club turn point
data
> could add height especially for landing places.  I know that it has been
> said before but it would be best if we could think of landing places as
turn
> points rather than the past more popular silo now that we do not use
photos
> very much.  With naming of airstrips I personally prefer "Jacks strip" or
> "Rangari airstrip" as this means more to me than a series of numbers or
> letters and it also encourages me to use a map or is that a lost art like
> the slide rule or log tables!!!  What do others think?
> Ian McPhee
> Box 657  Byron Bay  NSW  2481  Australia
> Tel +61 (0)2 66 847 642  Mob +61 (0)428 847 642
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.mrsoaring.com
>
>

Attachment: LkKpt NSWGA 2003 Comp Waypoint-Airfield List.doc
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