Has anyone coordinated/updated GPS data in Victoria recently? I
understand that the Geelong Gliding Club (Bacchus Marsh) may have a
good database? This could be the basis for a landout and task planning
manual in our region.

Thanks

Jim Kelly
VMFG.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian McPhee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Fly within
capture zone of airfield?


| I believe the plan within gliding in Oz is to use more
airfields/airstrips
| as turnpoints rather than the silos which were needed for the photo
days.
| Unfortunately comp organizers tend not to put the field elevation in
| official downloadable data bases so we do not get the benefit of
full
| capabilities of our systems.  Both the older Cambridge LNAV GPS-NAV
system
| and the new 302/303 and many other systems work real easy for glide
to
| landing place if it is in the official data base contains landing
place
| elevation.
| Ian McPhee
| Box 657  Byron Bay  NSW  2481  Australia
| Tel +61 (0)2 66 847 642  Mob +61 (0)428 847 642
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Alan Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 8:39 AM
| Subject: RE: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Fly within
capture zone
| of airfield?
|
|
| > I understand in Europe the cost of outlanding is almost
prohibitive, so
| > flying always within the capture zone of a known 'safe' airfield
is almost
| > essential.  Roland Poss was in out club several years ago and did
| > considerable research on outlanding strips and flew always within
final
| > glide range of these.
| >
| > What would make safe Xcountry gliding simpler would be to not only
have
| them
| > programmed in the flight computer, but an easy interface to a
B2000 or
| > similar to confirm when altitude is sufficient to reach the next
| > airfield/paddock.  Say airfields indicated on the iPaq map and
gliding
| > distance circles/eclipses at 0 Mac ready centred on current
position
| [noting
| > wind and altitude/terrain!]
| >
| > Now there is a challenge.
| >
| > Does such a user friendly system exist?
| >
| > Alan Wilson
| >
| >
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike
| > Borgelt
| > Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2003 7:37 PM
| > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Field Landings Web Page - Lake Keepit
| > Airfield Database
| >
| >
| > At 05:36 PM 28/09/03 +1000, you wrote:
| > >We at Lake Keepit have been concerned for some time at the
potential
| damage
| > >to Club gliders and pilots from inappropriate paddock choice.
While we
| > agree
| > >with the comments about teaching pilots how to assess paddocks
(and
| > continue
| > >to pursue this) there's no doubt than finding an airfield or ag
strip is
| > >normally a much safer option.
| > >
| > >Over the last couple of years we have accumulated a register of
airfields
| > >and ag strips, including upper air photographs and GPS
coordinates. A
| > >loose-leaf book of these outlanding airfields is maintained by
the Club
| > with
| > >as much pertinent data as can be assembled - photos, runway
direction(s),
| > >owner name and phone, condition of field, cautionery notes etc.
Study of
| > >this file by intending cross country pilots is encouraged.
| > >
| > >The Club's turnpoint database for downloading to data
loggers/GPSs
| > >incorporates the coordinates for all these known airfields, with
as much
| > >descriptive info than can be fitted into GPS data fields to
assist pilots
| > >make sensible choices.
| > >
| > >Within a rough semicircle of 150km radius we have a database of
90
| points,
| > >of which 66 are landable airfields or ag strips. (We have adopted
| airfields
| > >as turnpoints, rather than silos or other features, wherever
available.)
| > >Most cross country soaring within this area can now be performed
without
| > >losing glide slope to a suitable strip.
| > >
| > >This will be a feature of the upcoming NSWGA State comp in
November and
| > will
| > >be another safety initiative of the Lake Keepit comp.
| > >
| > >The club is indebted to Harry Medlicott whose initiative this has
been,
| and
| > >who has collected the lion's share of the info on these fields.
This has
| > >been an important part of his drive to improve safety in gliding,
which
| > will
| > >be strongly empasised in the forthcoming State competition in Nov
at
| > Keepit.
| > >
| > >Dave Shorter
| > >email [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (note no ".au" in address)
| > >11 Lighthouse Crescent,
| > >Emerald Beach,
| > >NSW 2456,   Australia
| > >Phone (02) 6656 1979
| > >Fax  (02) 6656 2983
| >
| >
| > I believe Ron Geake has done this at Gympie also. They can now fly
cross
| > country while in glide range of suitable airstrips.
| >
| > One resource you might consider to do this with is the AOPA
Airfield
| guide.
| >
| > Mike
| > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments
| > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784
| > fax   Int'l + 61 746 358796
| > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784
| >           Int'l + 61 429 355784
| > email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com
| >
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