They may be able to teach a student to manipulate an aircraft in one week,
but there is a lot more to flying than manipulation.

To quote Terry - 

" Then again, chatting at the bar at the end of each day - "Priceless"


How true is that - it may be the Bar, it may be the launch point or the
pizza shop on the way home (we recommend the Pizzeria at Bredbo)- flying is
not like learning to drive a car, the safety culture among aspects takes
time and exposure to pass on and for the student to learn.  

As an aside our club offers a week course, solo only if up to standard, and
we have had no students for this course since 2001. Ok we do not market it
that hard, we are a club, and human resources are hard to line up even with
a team of enthusiastic retirees to staff the course.

If you're interested - Easter Course at Bunyan, gateway to the NSW Snowy
Mountains - contact me for details.

SDF       

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Lawley
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2006 2:51 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] sportavia

Couldn't agree more about week courses, did one myself. Shouldn't have said
training.

 Ok..... then 1 hour in a Junior/ASW15 for same cost?(Off season!)

Interestingly I did my 5 day 10 years ago, 26 launches for solo.

 approx 20 launches 15 years before(at previous club) weekends only, no
solo.

 My son did weekend training 2 days every fortnight- 27 launches for solo.

20 launches 2 years before(at previous club) in effect no different.

 Perhaps the week course is over rated in general? Only 1 is not a big
sample I realise.

David Lawley
Computer Manager
Elizabeth Park Primary School 
Elizabeth East Primary School
 
 
 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Caleb White
> Sent: Monday, 27 February 2006 2:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] sportavia
> 
> I don't think that it's fair to analyse the economics of a 
> commercial full-time training operation on a cost per flight 
> basis (package options also exist). I believe Terry is 
> correct. If you can train uninterrupted for a full week the 
> number of hours/flights to solo would be significantly less 
> than a 'once a week or fortnight' approach in a pure club 
> environment. When you factor in the skills of a full-time 
> instructor it's hard to beat. While the cost per flight is 
> greater, the total cost of training is much less. It's 
> simple; to train for a solid week you have to pay a premium.
> 
> Caleb
> 
> KPST
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "David Lawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in 
> Australia.'" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:17:52 +1030
> Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] sportavia
> 
> 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> 
> > A real pity from a national perspective. Tocumwal has been 
> really the 
> > last remaining full time commercial operation, providing excellent 
> > training at quite a good price.
> 
> Geez I'd hate to see Terrys idea of an expensive commercial 
> operation, Alternatively,If that's what he thinks, I'd like 
> his income!
> 
> $60 for 2000ft tow + 60/hr for a Blanik???? $120 for a one 
> hour training flight.Hmmmmmm 
> 
> David Lawley
> Computer Manager
> Elizabeth Park Primary School
> Elizabeth East Primary School
>  
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