Mark Don't worry I am paid up for comp licence - it was interesting to see how the SSA made things simple with their membership card...........Ian M ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Rowe To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences
Macca, My limited understanding of the whole FAI licence thing is that each coutry has an FAI delegate that must verify claims from that country. This does have costs involved to maintain the system, i do know for sure that the FAI delegate is not paid and volunteers her time but the correspondence and costs of the running of the process may explain the cost of our FAI licenses here. Tell you what, i will ask her and get back to you.. Maybe we should look forward and build a web based system to lower the costs and show what actually happens more clearly? Cheers Mark > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:12:17 +1000 > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences > > Tim > For 15 to 20 years I can remember if you pay your for associate membership > of SAA your membership card comes back as also your FAI Sporting licence as > well and there was no extra charge for same. I often wondered if I were to > present same at our competitions what would be said. Interesting that SAA > have now scrubbed it altogether - it is a few years since I subscribed to > "Soaring". Obviously they have a different emphasis to us re Sporting > licence......Ian McPhee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Shirley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences > > > > The start of this very interesting discussion was the fact that SSA has > > decided not to require Sporting Licences for National achievement > > awards. > > > > The FAI Sporting Licence is relevant only to the SPORT of gliding - > > badges, records and competition. It has nothing to do with pilot's > > licences, parallel universes, or delegations from regulators. > > > > The Sporting Licence is intended to identify the holder and also the > > nation that the holder represents. This reduces confusion where a pilot > > has dual citizenship or is a long time permanent resident of a country > > but doesn't hold official citizenship. It is an FAI issued document, > > though the issuing authority is delegated to GFA in Australia. > > > > According to the FAI Sporting Code, a person can only hold a Sporting > > Licence from one national body at a time. > > > > The FAI Sporting Licence is not a certificate of competency. > > > > To the best of my knowledge, the $5 per year that we pay for a Sporting > > Licence goes entirely to the FAI Certificates Officer to cover costs of > > administration. I don't think the GFA or the FAI see a single cent. > > > > The only benefit I can see of retaining the requirement for a Sporting > > Licence locally in the area of badges and records comes where Australian > > National records are concerned. In this case, it would be reasonable to > > expect that the person claiming the National Record could show that they > > in fact represented Australia, and this can be done if the pilot holds a > > Sporting Licence issued in Australia. > > > > When seeking to provide insurance cover to competition officials, GFA > > and OAMPS also made use of the existing Sporting Licence structure to > > make this possible without imposing a separate accreditation process for > > competition pilots. This saved competition pilots the cost and > > administrative burden of any approach that required extra paperwork. > > > > Cheers > > > > Tim > > "Apparatchik to the gentry" > > > > PS: Reading some of the other contributions on this topic brought to > > mind the following quotation: > > > > "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the > > pig" (Robert Heinlein) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/838 - Release Date: 6/7/2007 > > 2:21 PM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/840 - Release Date: 6/8/2007 3:15 PM
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