Macca,
 
They may be onto something, making it part of our GFA membership just like the 
BBL?, lets face it, most gliding is all about meeting goals that are defined by 
the FAI. 
All members may not wish to have the competitor part of membership though?
I personaly would like the convenience of FAI and GFA membership in the one hit 
per annum, then i can just rock up to any comp and flash the GFA card, job 
done. I keep loosing the damn FAI thingy anyway.
 
Cheers
Mark


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Mark
Don't worry I am paid up for comp licence - it was interesting to see how the 
SSA made things simple with their membership card...........Ian M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mark Rowe 
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences
Macca, My limited understanding of the whole FAI licence thing is that each 
coutry has an FAI delegate that must verify claims from that country.This does 
have costs involved to maintain the system, i do know for sure that the FAI 
delegate is not paid and volunteers her time but the correspondence and costs 
of the running of the process may explain the cost of our FAI licenses 
here.Tell you what, i will ask her and get back to you..Maybe we should look 
forward and build a web based system to lower the costs and show what actually 
happens more clearly? CheersMark> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
[email protected]> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:12:17 +1000> 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences> > Tim> For 15 to 20 years I can 
remember if you pay your for associate membership > of SAA your membership card 
comes back as also your FAI Sporting licence as > well and there was no extra 
charge for same. I often wondered if I were to > present same at our 
competitions what would be said. Interesting that SAA > have now scrubbed it 
altogether - it is a few years since I subscribed to > "Soaring". Obviously 
they have a different emphasis to us re Sporting > licence......Ian McPhee> > 
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Shirley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: 
"'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" > 
<[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:37 PM> 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences> > > > The start of this very 
interesting discussion was the fact that SSA has> > decided not to require 
Sporting Licences for National achievement> > awards.> >> > The FAI Sporting 
Licence is relevant only to the SPORT of gliding -> > badges, records and 
competition. It has nothing to do with pilot's> > licences, parallel universes, 
or delegations from regulators.> >> > The Sporting Licence is intended to 
identify the holder and also the> > nation that the holder represents. This 
reduces confusion where a pilot> > has dual citizenship or is a long time 
permanent resident of a country> > but doesn't hold official citizenship. It is 
an FAI issued document,> > though the issuing authority is delegated to GFA in 
Australia.> >> > According to the FAI Sporting Code, a person can only hold a 
Sporting> > Licence from one national body at a time.> >> > The FAI Sporting 
Licence is not a certificate of competency.> >> > To the best of my knowledge, 
the $5 per year that we pay for a Sporting> > Licence goes entirely to the FAI 
Certificates Officer to cover costs of> > administration. I don't think the GFA 
or the FAI see a single cent.> >> > The only benefit I can see of retaining the 
requirement for a Sporting> > Licence locally in the area of badges and records 
comes where Australian> > National records are concerned. In this case, it 
would be reasonable to> > expect that the person claiming the National Record 
could show that they> > in fact represented Australia, and this can be done if 
the pilot holds a> > Sporting Licence issued in Australia.> >> > When seeking 
to provide insurance cover to competition officials, GFA> > and OAMPS also made 
use of the existing Sporting Licence structure to> > make this possible without 
imposing a separate accreditation process for> > competition pilots. This saved 
competition pilots the cost and> > administrative burden of any approach that 
required extra paperwork.> >> > Cheers> >> > Tim> > "Apparatchik to the 
gentry"> >> > PS: Reading some of the other contributions on this topic brought 
to> > mind the following quotation:> >> > "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It 
wastes your time and annoys the> > pig" (Robert Heinlein)> >> >> > 
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