The whole issue of gilder pilot licensing and the "club" based system 
of signing off glider pilot "ratings" needs to be overhauled for a 
number of reasons.

We live in an increasingly internationalised world and whether we 
like it or not if you want to be able to transport your gilding 
skills to another country it would be far easier to have an 
internationally recognised licence issued in Australia. Last year I 
was able to spend 3 weeks touring the USA by Cessna 182, I needed to 
have a USA PPL but the whole process was painless and based on my 
existing Australian PPL, all the FAA do is check with CASA your 
ratings and then issue a USA licence with the same ratings even in 
this post 9/11 world. It was even FREE! I tried at the same time to 
get a Glider Pilot rating but was knocked back as the FAA did not 
recognise my "Glider Ratings" as I could not show a licence or CASA 
rating. Frustrating to say the least when it could of been so simple 
if I had an Australian issued Glider Rating attached to my PPL as the 
Americans do for their Glider Pilots. Perhaps someone can tell me how 
you can get the FAA to issue a Glider Rating to an Australian Glider 
pilot as I will probably be back in the USA next year?

Another reason to go to a "licence" system is that the current system 
is not understood by the public and many pilots. The public are I 
think more likely to believe Gliding is a legitimate safe aviation 
sport with qualified pilots if licences are issued, the current 
system strikes many I think as being way too amateurish. A licence is 
a publicly recognized measure of achievement but what does a Sliver C 
mean to the public? The GFA confuse the international gliding 
measures of personal achievement in a one area of gliding 
(soaring/cross country flight) eg the "badge" system with a proper 
system of general glider pilot training and international/public 
recognition of qualifications and ability eg a licence.

Club control of the whole process is also another cause I think of a 
drop off in membership after solo, there are no clear goals for many 
pilots and the hours required to achieve higher ratings are too high 
eg passenger ratings. I still have trouble understanding how come I 
can legally fly 4-6 people all around Australia or even the world in 
a Cessna/Piper after 50-60 hours training but can't fly passengers in 
a glider or fly without "club" supervision no matter how many hours 
and experience I have in a glider unless I go and get an instructor 
to sign off on it? PPL holders take responsibility for their own 
flying be it in a rental or their own aircraft but we somehow can't 
do that for Glider pilots, if they are trained properly what's the 
problem or don't GFA have any confidence in their training systems or 
their own members? How do the recreational pilots operate? Do they 
need "club" supervision? As for the cost issue many raise, its really 
not that bad, CASA charge for licence ratings each time you get an 
additional one I think now but its a once off not every year and now 
they charge $70 (was $130 for last 12 months) for a medical every 2/3 
years. Its a relatively small cost to hold a proper licence. GFA and 
Club fees cost more then what I pay on average to keep my PPL licence 
leaving aside actual flying costs.

Lastly I agree with Mike re Student Unions, waste of money for me 
many years ago and others I know of current Uni attending age.

Mark K





:
>At 11:19 AM 7/06/2007, you wrote:
>
> >In your view, what impediments is the GFA raising to prevent people
> >who dislike the GFA from following the same path you've followed?
> >Is there an actual problem here?
> >
> >    - mark
>
>
>
>
>It isn't quite that simple as there is no add on to a PPL.(or CPL or
>ATPL) It is all a most unsatisfactory grey area that would have been
>rectified by the CASA RPPL proposal which the GFA had killed when it
>would not have prevented the GFA or anyone in it from operating the
>way they do now. The GFA just didn't like the idea of any competition
>or a clear legislative path for those who don't join.
>You obviously haven't read the Part 103 NPRM either. The clear
>intention(it was written by a GFA member in consultation with the
>GFA) is to hand an effective monopoly to the GFA. Particularly on
>training/checking which the GFA has just stated they will not do for
>non members so there would be no way for people to comply with the
>proposed CASA regs without being GFA members(the excuse is
>insurance). Like the APF and parachute packing actually. BTW there
>doesn't seem to be a resolution of that yet.
>
>Even the GFA mission statement makes the GFA's monopolistic intentions clear.
>
>To unite and protect the interests of all glider pilots and to foster
>excellence in safe, accessible and enjoyable soaring"
>
>
>I repeat:
>
>   We still haven't seen a defence of the GFA position of "our way or no
>   way" when it comes to the *option* of a state issued licence to fly
>   gliders.
>
>It is historic fact that the GFA went to Minister to have the CASA
>RPPL proposal killed for glider pilots even though there was no
>intention of eliminating the GFA option. Whether there were people in
>this country flying gliders under a CASA licence and not the GFA was
>properly none of the GFA's business as lomg as the GFA option was
>still available.
>It was also bleeding obvious that once the CASA option available that
>numbers of pilots might not want to be GFA members. They might even
>want to form clubs that weren't training organisations, a requirement
>that BTW the last CASA bloke I talked to found somewhat bizarre.
>Obviously the GFA position was based on sheer greed and protecting
>the revenue, bit like trade unions, student unions etc which we've
>thankfully stopped.
>
>Mike
>
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