I believe all the aircraft were in Class G airspace where there is no 
requirement for any GA, LSA or gliders to have transponders and of course this 
was not mentioned.

 

REX have been on this band wagon for over five years.

 

Rob Moore

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith
Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 6:25 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story

 

Personally, I foresee a future where we will all have some form of compulsory 
collision avoidance system.  I think that it is unavoidable (pardon the joke).

 

I subscribe to the view that we would be much better off to get ourselves 
(gliders) sorted out now.  That way we have some “hope” of collectively 
negotiating the future with the authorities rather than having the authorities 
dictate to us a potentially less desirable the solution.

 

 

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart & Kerri 
FERGUSON
Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:55 PM
To: tom claffey; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story

 

BUT not all gliders are fitted with FLARM !

 

We would have to make them compulsory too.

Stuart FERGUSON 

Phone - 0419 797508

 


On 04/07/2012, at 13:03, tom claffey <[email protected]> wrote:

REX could buy Flarms of course! ;] I would be happy if they made them mandatory.

After all, it is them wanting us to change, we outnumber them as well.

Tom


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From: Mike Borgelt <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story

 

At 11:21 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote:

Forwarded from Kim Taylor:

Hi All,

 
This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional
airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders. 

Rex had a near miss  involving a glider and one of their air ambulances.

 

Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm

 

 

Regards,

 

Kim T

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It would be nice if the GFA spokesperson got his facts straight.

A transponder like a Trig TT21 or 22 draws only 300mA or so and that includes 
the altitude encoder. It fits a sub 57mm hole and is in two parts so the bit in 
the panel is very short.

Not only that it is ADSB ready so it only needs a suitable approved GPS unit 
and it is an ADSB OUT solution. Can be had for $2500 currently, maybe a bit 
less. The only issue with ADSB OUT is the "approved"GPS source and this is an 
area where some intelligent lobbying will pay. (God help us if the GFA does 
this)

Claiming size/weight/power problems is a joke when power hungry colour moving 
map displays draw around 500mA and new battery technology allows over 2.5 times 
the energy storage for less weight than the old sealed lead acid tech.

I find a fair number of RAAus aircraft don't have transponders either and these 
will be as much of a hazard as gliders to Air Ambulance and Regional airline 
ops although the RAAus guys seem to be better at radio use. I guess Rex have 
TCAS in their Air Ambulances as otherwise you need to be in radar coverage at 
least with Mode C. The Trig is a Mode S transponder BTW(includes Mode C).

Imagine if the ABC found out that glider pilots are unlicensed.

Mike


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