There will always be attacks from airspace users who are intolerant of other users, it's seems to be an ego thing similar to mines bigger, faster or louder than yours. That said I also believe the future direction in the area is in ADSB and I don't believe we should be investing in what will become a legacy technology, transponders have served aviation well but it's time to move forward.
I believe products like Power Flarm will emerge to meet our needs and the needs of those we share airspace with and most of will be happy; there will always be those who complain. Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 On 04/07/2012, at 19:49, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Rob > > Belated congatulations on your birthday and MANY HAPPY RETURNS! > > You are right, REX have been on this band wagon for over five years and if my > information is correct they have very sympathetic ears > at CASA. > > I fully agree with Anthony! We need to get our act together if we want to > avoid that the authorities dictate a very undesirable solution! > > Kind regards from Germany > > Bernard > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > > To: > "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Cc: > > Sent: > Wed, 4 Jul 2012 19:08:17 +0930 > Subject: > Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story > > > I believe all the aircraft were in Class G airspace where there is no > requirement for any GA, LSA or gliders to have transponders and of course > this was not mentioned. > > > > > REX have been on this band wagon for over five years. > > > > > Rob Moore > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 6:25 PM > To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story > > > > Personally, I foresee a future where we will all have some form of compulsory > collision avoidance system. I think that it is unavoidable (pardon the joke). > > > > > I subscribe to the view that we would be much better off to get ourselves > (gliders) sorted out now. That way we have some “hope” of collectively > negotiating the future with the authorities rather than having the > authorities dictate to us a potentially less desirable the solution. > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart & > Kerri FERGUSON > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:55 PM > To: tom claffey; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story > > > > > BUT not all gliders are fitted with FLARM ! > > > > > We would have to make them compulsory too. > > Stuart FERGUSON > > Phone - 0419 797508 > > > > > > On 04/07/2012, at 13:03, tom claffey <[email protected]> wrote: > > REX could buy Flarms of course! ;] I would be happy if they made them > mandatory. > > After all, it is them wanting us to change, we outnumber them as well. > > Tom > > From: Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story > > > > > At 11:21 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: > > Forwarded from Kim Taylor: > > Hi All, > > > This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional > airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders. > > Rex had a near miss involving a glider and one of their air ambulances. > > > > Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kim T > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > It would be nice if the GFA spokesperson got his facts straight. > > A transponder like a Trig TT21 or 22 draws only 300mA or so and that includes > the altitude encoder. It fits a sub 57mm hole and is in two parts so the bit > in the panel is very short. > > Not only that it is ADSB ready so it only needs a suitable approved GPS unit > and it is an ADSB OUT solution. Can be had for $2500 currently, maybe a bit > less. The only issue with ADSB OUT is the "approved"GPS source and this is an > area where some intelligent lobbying will pay. (God help us if the GFA does > this) > > Claiming size/weight/power problems is a joke when power hungry colour moving > map displays draw around 500mA and new battery technology allows over 2.5 > times the energy storage for less weight than the old sealed lead acid tech. > > I find a fair number of RAAus aircraft don't have transponders either and > these will be as much of a hazard as gliders to Air Ambulance and Regional > airline ops although the RAAus guys seem to be better at radio use. I guess > Rex have TCAS in their Air Ambulances as otherwise you need to be in radar > coverage at least with Mode C. The Trig is a Mode S transponder BTW(includes > Mode C). > > Imagine if the ABC found out that glider pilots are unlicensed. > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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