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Didn’t think this would happen so quickly. Small couple of demographic observations: · we can’t influence any political outcome that wouldn’t be seen as looking after our own interests and potentially not Safety Vs · Unsafe Commuters across dozens of electorates(Media campaign) · No political organisation is going to respond to sporting recommendations for RPT/Air Ambulance safety when there is a very easily justifiable position, and already travelled option. Other Observations · REX already configured to a World ICOA standard – no additional change necessary · Glider using something different · RAA…….. well yet to see anything approaching group think here · RAA/GFA do outnumber only in People, not revenue, tourism, community connectivity, Ambulance services, linking bush to city etc etc · How much time and money have you got to chip in to an argument of Flarm vs “the rest of the world” in RPT standards – Transponder/TCAS/ADSB ? It’s very unfortunate that everyone knows what Class G and E aerodromes/airspace is and the laws regulating their use, some are just not prepared to accept this and use the public to assist. So much for an adult conversation in all of this. It’s time to wake up and actively start thinking about how the scene will change, probably not in our benefit(well ultimately it could) Class A clearance would be so much easier as we would fit in. Cheers John From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Smith Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 6:25 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story Personally, I foresee a future where we will all have some form of compulsory collision avoidance system. I think that it is unavoidable (pardon the joke). I subscribe to the view that we would be much better off to get ourselves (gliders) sorted out now. That way we have some “hope” of collectively negotiating the future with the authorities rather than having the authorities dictate to us a potentially less desirable the solution. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:55 PM To: tom claffey; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story BUT not all gliders are fitted with FLARM ! We would have to make them compulsory too. Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 On 04/07/2012, at 13:03, tom claffey <[email protected]> wrote: REX could buy Flarms of course! ;] I would be happy if they made them mandatory. After all, it is them wanting us to change, we outnumber them as well. Tom _____ From: Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story At 11:21 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: Forwarded from Kim Taylor: Hi All, This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders. Rex had a near miss involving a glider and one of their air ambulances. Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm Regards, Kim T _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring It would be nice if the GFA spokesperson got his facts straight. A transponder like a Trig TT21 or 22 draws only 300mA or so and that includes the altitude encoder. It fits a sub 57mm hole and is in two parts so the bit in the panel is very short. Not only that it is ADSB ready so it only needs a suitable approved GPS unit and it is an ADSB OUT solution. Can be had for $2500 currently, maybe a bit less. The only issue with ADSB OUT is the "approved"GPS source and this is an area where some intelligent lobbying will pay. (God help us if the GFA does this) Claiming size/weight/power problems is a joke when power hungry colour moving map displays draw around 500mA and new battery technology allows over 2.5 times the energy storage for less weight than the old sealed lead acid tech. I find a fair number of RAAus aircraft don't have transponders either and these will be as much of a hazard as gliders to Air Ambulance and Regional airline ops although the RAAus guys seem to be better at radio use. I guess Rex have TCAS in their Air Ambulances as otherwise you need to be in radar coverage at least with Mode C. The Trig is a Mode S transponder BTW(includes Mode C). Imagine if the ABC found out that glider pilots are unlicensed. Mike _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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