Hi Rob
Belated congatulations on your birthday and MANY HAPPY RETURNS!
You are right, REX have been on this band wagon for over five years
and if my information is correct they have very sympathetic ears
at CASA.
I fully agree with Anthony! We need to get our act together if we want
to avoid that the authorities dictate a very undesirable solution!
Kind regards from Germany
Bernard
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Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story
I believe all the aircraft were in Class G airspace where there is no
requirement for any GA, LSA or gliders to have transponders and of
course this was not mentioned.
REX have been on this band wagon for over five years.
Rob Moore
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Anthony Smith
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Personally, I foresee a future where we will all have some form of
compulsory collision avoidance system. I think that it is
unavoidable (pardon the joke).
I subscribe to the view that we would be much better off to get
ourselves (gliders) sorted out now. That way we have some “hope”
of collectively negotiating the future with the authorities rather
than having the authorities dictate to us a potentially less desirable
the solution.
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BUT not all gliders are fitted with FLARM !
We would have to make them compulsory too.
Stuart FERGUSON
Phone - 0419 797508
On 04/07/2012, at 13:03, tom claffey wrote:
REX could buy Flarms of course! ;] I would be happy if they made them
mandatory.
After all, it is them wanting us to change, we outnumber them as
well.
Tom
FROM: Mike Borgelt
TO: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
SENT: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:15 PM
SUBJECT: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story
At 11:21 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote:
Forwarded from Kim Taylor:
Hi All,
This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional
airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders.
Rex had a near miss involving a glider and one of their air
ambulances.
Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm [6]
Regards,
Kim T
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It would be nice if the GFA spokesperson got his facts straight.
A transponder like a Trig TT21 or 22 draws only 300mA or so and that
includes the altitude encoder. It fits a sub 57mm hole and is in two
parts so the bit in the panel is very short.
Not only that it is ADSB ready so it only needs a suitable approved
GPS unit and it is an ADSB OUT solution. Can be had for $2500
currently, maybe a bit less. The only issue with ADSB OUT is the
"approved"GPS source and this is an area where some intelligent
lobbying will pay. (God help us if the GFA does this)
Claiming size/weight/power problems is a joke when power hungry colour
moving map displays draw around 500mA and new battery technology
allows over 2.5 times the energy storage for less weight than the old
sealed lead acid tech.
I find a fair number of RAAus aircraft don't have transponders either
and these will be as much of a hazard as gliders to Air Ambulance and
Regional airline ops although the RAAus guys seem to be better at
radio use. I guess Rex have TCAS in their Air Ambulances as otherwise
you need to be in radar coverage at least with Mode C. The Trig is a
Mode S transponder BTW(includes Mode C).
Imagine if the ABC found out that glider pilots are unlicensed.
Mike
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