Whoa. A few Apple bashers around it seems! I have used Windows only software on my Macs for longer than I care to remember. This includes those requiring USB and serial connections. I am yet to find a piece of hardware or software that can't be run on a Mac using Parrallels or Bootcamp. I currently run SeeYou, LX Nano and Condor on a Mac.
Ford vs Holden, Boeing vs Airbus, Mac vs PC. Whatever your preference, gain some meaningful experience on 'the enemy' before slandering them. :) iPhone Transmission On 11 Mar, 2013, at 13:14, [email protected] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Flight recorders/planning software (Dave Long & Cath Lincoln) > 2. Re: Flight recorders/planning software (Matthew Gage) > 3. Re: Flight recorders/planning software (DMcD) > 4. Re: Flight recorders/planning software (Paul Bart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:33:16 +1100 > From: "Dave Long & Cath Lincoln" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software > To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Love the Ridley Scott "1984" Apple commercial. Very pertinent to the Apple > dominance and control nowdays! > > > > Dave Long > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike > Borgelt > Sent: Monday, 11 March 2013 12:26 PM > To: Jim Staniforth; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software > > > > I got a Asus eeePC for $198 (WinXP)at Hardly Normal's one weekend on > special. Also got another for Ron Sanders a few months ago for $236 (Win7). > Use it just for your gliding apps. Runs instrument support software and all > the gliding analysis programs as well as email and web browsing. Perfect for > taking gliding and if it is lost/stolen/broken you haven't lost much. > > Why screw around wasting your time with Apple OS? > > For the Apple fanbois, I've used a desktop belonging to one of my sister's > in law and my impressions was: looked nice, seemed well built, great for > running Apple software, lots of things done slightly differently from > Windows, mainly for the sake of being different. Some of the differences > range from annoying to infuriating. > > I also weakened and bought an ipad mini before Christmas only so I could run > Oz Runways (brilliant program BTW). Pity Oz Runways isn't ported to Android > or Windows. Fortunately it was in a plain bag for taking home. The ipad is > getting used for web surfing and Skype when not in the BD-4. Safari on the > mini seems to be a joke. The "go back" button after following a link is > prone to opening some random URL. Fine for casual browsing but too often > infuriating. > > I can see the Apple philosophy as when you control the hardware and the > software you should have fewer compatibility glitches and adjustments to > make to get stuff to work properly but I don't see the price/perfomance > payoff. > > I don't even want to think about running Windows based programs on Macs > which need USB or serial to USB comms for connection to external devices. > > Apple - meh. > > Mike > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20130311/7d642306/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:29:07 +1100 > From: Matthew Gage <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > On 11/03/2013, at 12:25 , Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> Why screw around wasting your time with Apple OS? > > 'Cos it's enabled be to bill well over $16,000 per year more for the last 5 > years than if I still used windows. Cheap is not always the most cost > effective. > >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 04:57 AM 11/03/2013, you wrote: >>> SeeYou may run fairly well under Parallels or Crossover. Achieved inferior >>> performance to a Pentium 3 laptop on what was a the time the top of the >>> line Macbook Pro. The only native software I ended up using on OSX was >>> Firefox. Twenty or so programs had to run via Parallels or Crossover, so >>> the point seemed lost. >>> Trying to get Java-based weather resources to run on a newer iMac is still >>> problematic. >>> An option like Mike suggested is likely best. >>> Jim >>> >>> Sent from a $700 laptop which replaced "The $2000 Paperweight". >>> >>> >>> >>> From: John Parncutt <[email protected]> >>> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software >>> >>> If you???ve got a Intel based Mac with OS X, you can load parallels >>> software which allows you to run almost any Windows based program either >>> full screen or in a window. Works well for me, and is great for those who >>> want to upgrade to Mac but still keep using some of their old PC programs. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> John Parncutt >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] [ >>> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham >>> Holland >>> Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013 8:47 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software >>> >>> Are there any that work on Macs and record engine use? Seeyou, fly with CE, >>> don't. >>> >>> Graham >>> >>> Graham Holland >>> 27 Johnston Crescent >>> Lane Cove NSW 2066 >>> Australia >>> 02 9427 3282 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20130311/9deb0d88/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:09:13 +1100 > From: DMcD <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <cad0mmpxvdplcdnkkuzczqdt03iy7dtzebe5dda04oeekw0b...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >>> Why screw around wasting your time with Apple OS? > > Mike, you're right as usual. > > One reason to waste time with Macs springs to mind though? > > If you spend your day working on computers doing something almost > creative? I can think of writing, engineering, design, photography, > film production, music production etc. etc coming into this category? > if you do this, you might find it offensive to spend the day looking > at something which had been designed by a 16 year old schoolboy on the > bus on the way to school. > > We had a French engineering intern here a year or so ago. I asked him > if he wanted to be a designer and he said yes. I then asked him to > turn his laptop upside down and look at the underside. As expected, it > was a mess. Bumps and flanges all over the place, vents and sockets > and screw-holes. The underside of my macbook was almost as nice as the > top. One was a piece of great design and engineering. The other was > not. > > The remote control on our Apple TV has three buttons. It's the only > one my wife can use without asking which button do I press. The other > remotes for the TV and recorder have 40 or 50 buttons. One of these > remotes is a piece of great design and engineering. The others are > not. > > The iPod wiped out all the other MP3 players because it and its > support system of iTunes worked brilliantly. Ditto the iPhone. > > As a design engineer, if I could make something as elegant and > minimalist as most Apple products, I would be very happy indeed. > > I find that most Apple bashers are folk who don't use computers for > more than intelligent typewriters. They type, they use spreadsheets > etc, but don't do much else. That's why you find PCs in garages and > doctor's surgeries. Perfect. But in design offices, recording studios, > film production companies, publishers, photographers etc. etc.... > > In our business, we do all of the above. I'm disturbed to find out > that we've been wrong all these years. 90% of the computers in the > building are macs. 10% are PCs. The average lifespan of our PCs is two > years and the macs is 5+ years. Half the unservicable computers > waiting to be recycled are PCs. > > Please tell me Mike, what are we doing wrong! This is meant to be a > GLIDING forum! > > D > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:38 +1000 > From: Paul Bart <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <camjs6mz6cygb-_nzwjk6btikydrwyazdzae_dcrdipgg+t8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Not that I understand what the sentence starting with Cos means, but > perhaps you should consider that there are even more important things than > profit. > > In my opinion Apple is one of the most evil companies going round. Almost > totally closed, once they have you in the ecosystem, you may find it almost > impossible to leave. Last quarterly report shows revenue of about > 54 billion with a net profit of about 13 billion. That is 25%. Not too many > other companies achieve that. And with 140 billion in the bank, the company > is probably totally immune from regulators. > > > Cheers > > Paul > > > On 11 March 2013 14:29, Matthew Gage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On 11/03/2013, at 12:25 , Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Why screw around wasting your time with Apple OS? >> >> >> 'Cos it's enabled be to bill well over $16,000 per year more for the last >> 5 years than if I still used windows. Cheap is not always the most cost >> effective. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 04:57 AM 11/03/2013, you wrote: >> >> SeeYou may run fairly well under Parallels or Crossover. Achieved >> inferior performance to a Pentium 3 laptop on what was a the time the top >> of the line Macbook Pro. The only native software I ended up using on OSX >> was Firefox. Twenty or so programs had to run via Parallels or Crossover, >> so the point seemed lost. >> Trying to get Java-based weather resources to run on a newer iMac is still >> problematic. >> An option like Mike suggested is likely best. >> Jim >> >> Sent from a $700 laptop which replaced "The $2000 Paperweight". >> >> >> >> *From:* John Parncutt <[email protected]> >> *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:44 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software >> >> If you???ve got a Intel based Mac with OS X, you can load parallels >> software which allows you to run almost any Windows based program either >> full screen or in a window. Works well for me, and is great for those who >> want to upgrade to Mac but still keep using some of their old PC programs. >> >> >> >> >> John Parncutt >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >> *On Behalf Of *Graham Holland >> *Sent:* Sunday, 10 March 2013 8:47 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Flight recorders/planning software >> >> Are there any that work on Macs and record engine use? Seeyou, fly with >> CE, don't. >> >> Graham >> >> Graham Holland >> 27 Johnston Crescent >> Lane Cove NSW 2066 >> Australia >> 02 9427 3282 >> [email protected] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20130311/a0db671c/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > End of Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 114, Issue 51 > ******************************************** _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
